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  • speedlimit85
    XStremely XSive
    • Jan 2017
    • 420
    • Gainesville, Fl.

    #166
    justme1100

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    Join Date: Jul 2008
    Location: Eagle, WI
    Posts: 243
    Oil Seal and Speedy sleeve for shaft

    Ok, did not read every post but on my XJ that seal can be ordered for $10 or less. Got my latest one from Advance Auto, Rock Auto. com also has them. National 223240 Have bought 3 so far. 1st one didn't work, thought it was bad. Found a speedy sleeve(I could look for the box for the part number if you need it cuz I got it somewhere), repairs the groove from the shaft from years of wear by the spring in the seal. Works great but you have to put it on backwards so you don't have to split the cases. Use a dremel tool to remove rough edge, found this out when I replaced the 2nd seal after flooding my crankcase with oil over the winter and that edge tore up seal #3. I am waiting for seal #4 to arrive, 2 day wait, I hope this helps.
    80 G

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    • bikerphil
      Master of XSology
      • Jan 2008
      • 8631
      • South Flori-DUH

      #167
      I would be 100% sure its leaking from the seal and not somewhere else like the base gasket, and running down the case, dripping off the weep hole, I have that problem with mine except its on the alternator side. I sprayed foot powder on the case under the cover, below the seal. No leak at the seal but its a real fooler.

      I wonder if it's possible for the oil to leak thru under the speedy sleeve.
      2H7 (79) owned since '89
      3H3 owned since '06

      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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      • speedlimit85
        XStremely XSive
        • Jan 2017
        • 420
        • Gainesville, Fl.

        #168
        I took the left cover off and some oil is inside. I don't want to take it apart again right away- it's running too good.

        Soon I will take take it apart and should be able to see where it is leaking from. If it is under the sleeve, I don't know what to do. If it is the seal to the sleeve on the crank, I could sand the edge better so the seal can go on unharmed.

        I was thinking of getting a tougher seal: https://www.oringsandmore.com/fkm-oi...rice-for-1-pc/ what do you think?
        80 G

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        • bikerphil
          Master of XSology
          • Jan 2008
          • 8631
          • South Flori-DUH

          #169
          Yep, I guess you could try a different brand of seal, may work out better, who knows. If you are worried about the seals lip being damaged upon installation, maybe wrap a piece of electrical tape around the crank overlapping the edge of the sleeve. Then install the seal and after it passes over the sharp edge, pull out the tape.
          2H7 (79) owned since '89
          3H3 owned since '06

          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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          • Schming
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Jul 2009
            • 2070
            • Pittsburgh,PA

            #170
            "If it is under the sleeve, I don't know what to do."

            The leak may very well be coming from in between the crank and the Speedi-sleeve which is why they must be installed with red loc-tite
            1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
            1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
            1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
            1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
            1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

            Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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            • speedlimit85
              XStremely XSive
              • Jan 2017
              • 420
              • Gainesville, Fl.

              #171
              Tape is a good idea.
              80 G

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              • LAB3
                XSive Maximus
                • May 2022
                • 677
                • Traveling the U.S. with no permanent address

                #172
                The corner of a plastic sandwich baggie has always been my go to when installing a seal on a splined shaft.
                1980 XS1100G

                Intelligent people discuss ideas, average people discuss events, petty people discuss other people.

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                • bikerphil
                  Master of XSology
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 8631
                  • South Flori-DUH

                  #173
                  Hey Eric, which are you running, conventional or synthetic oil in your engine. And what weight? Synthetic can work its way past seals sometimes when conventional wont.

                  Also using thinner than 20W50, the crank can rattle around causing a seal to leak. A higher mileage engine can do this due to worn crank bearings. Your engine mileage is somewhat low IIRC.
                  Last edited by bikerphil; 01-20-2023, 08:03 PM.
                  2H7 (79) owned since '89
                  3H3 owned since '06

                  "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                  • speedlimit85
                    XStremely XSive
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 420
                    • Gainesville, Fl.

                    #174
                    I heard the crank could wobble. I've been using 10w40 conventional with 58,000 mi. 20w50 is a bit thicker right? Ive been regularly changing oil every 3,000 mi w/filter every other.
                    80 G

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                    • bikerphil
                      Master of XSology
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 8631
                      • South Flori-DUH

                      #175
                      Yep, I would try the 20W50 conventional non-synthetic next time around. Yes it is a bit thicker and with 58K on the clock, that's what I would be using. The crankshaft bearing clearances on these old air cooled engines is a bit on the large side, so the thicker oil should help.

                      The 20W50 is getting more difficult to find these days, your Walmart should carry it for $18...

                      The Supertech brand in the blue jug has been changed to a semi synthetic, so this seems to be a suitable replacement.
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                      Last edited by bikerphil; 01-21-2023, 08:05 PM.
                      2H7 (79) owned since '89
                      3H3 owned since '06

                      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                      • speedlimit85
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 420
                        • Gainesville, Fl.

                        #176
                        I may have amazing news, replaced leaking o-ring under left cover. It looked like I crushed it when replacing last time. It can fool ya...I have not looked at the seal, it may be working. I'm gonna put more miles on and see it I get any more oil on the good foot.
                        80 G

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                        • jetmechmarty
                          Master of XSology
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 7764
                          • Coldwater, Mississippi

                          #177
                          If you end up having to revisit the seal, try this stuff. I fixed three hydraulic actuators with it. It works and my save you the hassle of repair.
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                          • bikerphil
                            Master of XSology
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 8631
                            • South Flori-DUH

                            #178
                            I may have amazing news, replaced leaking o-ring under left cover
                            I hope that's all it is, good luck.
                            2H7 (79) owned since '89
                            3H3 owned since '06

                            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                            • speedlimit85
                              XStremely XSive
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 420
                              • Gainesville, Fl.

                              #179
                              Update: seal and sleeve are working.

                              after 3000mi no oil leak
                              80 G

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                              • bikerphil
                                Master of XSology
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 8631
                                • South Flori-DUH

                                #180
                                Originally posted by speedlimit85
                                Am I close to a real bike mechanic yet?
                                Update: seal and sleeve are working.

                                after 3000mi no oil leak
                                Yes you are, congrats. That's awesome.
                                Last edited by bikerphil; 06-11-2023, 08:50 PM.
                                2H7 (79) owned since '89
                                3H3 owned since '06

                                "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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