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  • bikerphil
    Master of XSology
    • Jan 2008
    • 8636
    • South Flori-DUH

    #106
    When reinstalling the timing plate it could go on 2 ways 180 off or right
    Yes it can, but if you look at it closely you will see it is offset so it properly fits only one way. Yes, it could be forced on 180 deg. off.

    If you remove the valve cover and check the valve clearances with a feeler gauge, you will find the bent valve(s) fairly easily. The clearances will be huge compared to the unbent valve's normal clearances.
    Last edited by bikerphil; 10-10-2022, 01:29 PM.
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    • speedlimit85
      XStremely XSive
      • Jan 2017
      • 420
      • Gainesville, Fl.

      #107
      I think the chain failed. The compression test is hard to do with the bike running so bad. I tried to be wide open throttle. The test showed the left 2 cylinders at half and the right 2 are good, I think.

      I wiil look again to see if I forced it 180 off.
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      • bikerphil
        Master of XSology
        • Jan 2008
        • 8636
        • South Flori-DUH

        #108
        To do the compression test...

        Remove all 4 spark plugs
        Attach gauge to cylinder #1
        Hold the throttle wide open and crank 10 seconds until the highest reading is acheived
        Write down the number and move on to the next cylinder

        Don't do the test with the engine running if that's what you did.

        If/when you check the valve clearances, with the engine cold, they are...

        .004"-.006" intake
        .008"-.010" exhaust

        They would be much, much larger if there is a bent valve.

        Never seen a chain fail, the bike wouldn't run at all if it did. They need to be changed every 60K with the stock tensioner. With ACCT, they can go much further. I have one running with +125K on it.
        Last edited by bikerphil; 10-10-2022, 02:08 PM.
        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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        • speedlimit85
          XStremely XSive
          • Jan 2017
          • 420
          • Gainesville, Fl.

          #109
          You are right. The timing plate is on right.

          I redid compression and now get 0 on all 4

          I may be making it worse by running it

          80 G

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          • speedlimit85
            XStremely XSive
            • Jan 2017
            • 420
            • Gainesville, Fl.

            #110
            ok will do now
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            • speedlimit85
              XStremely XSive
              • Jan 2017
              • 420
              • Gainesville, Fl.

              #111
              Looks like it bounced to 90 on all 4 so compression is good.
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              • bikerphil
                Master of XSology
                • Jan 2008
                • 8636
                • South Flori-DUH

                #112
                Well, they are all even, but they should be around 140.

                Something is amiss.

                You did hold the throttle wide open when cranking right? Is the battery weak?
                Last edited by bikerphil; 10-10-2022, 02:31 PM.
                2H7 (79) owned since '89
                3H3 owned since '06

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                • bikerphil
                  Master of XSology
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 8636
                  • South Flori-DUH

                  #113
                  My guess would be the chain skipped a couple teeth and the compression is low as a result. Only way to verify would be to remove the valve cover and see if the dots on the cams line up with the arrows, with the crank at TDC.
                  Last edited by bikerphil; 10-10-2022, 11:51 PM.
                  2H7 (79) owned since '89
                  3H3 owned since '06

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                  • speedlimit85
                    XStremely XSive
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 420
                    • Gainesville, Fl.

                    #114
                    Yes the battery is good and I held the throttle open with the plugs out.

                    I think one of the times the timing plate went on wrong and I adjusted the chain.

                    Sounds fixable.
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                    • bikerphil
                      Master of XSology
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 8636
                      • South Flori-DUH

                      #115
                      Anything is fixable, hopefully it's just off a few teeth. Let us know when you have the valve cover off.
                      2H7 (79) owned since '89
                      3H3 owned since '06

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                      • speedlimit85
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 420
                        • Gainesville, Fl.

                        #116
                        Can you tell me the easiest ACCT to get for my bike? This may be the time to do it.
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                        • bikerphil
                          Master of XSology
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 8636
                          • South Flori-DUH

                          #117
                          Yamaha Vmax, 85 and up to 2000. I usually try to get one closer to 85.
                          Last edited by bikerphil; 10-10-2022, 07:52 PM.
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                          3H3 owned since '06

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                          • speedlimit85
                            XStremely XSive
                            • Jan 2017
                            • 420
                            • Gainesville, Fl.

                            #118
                            We offer free domestic shipping on our quality used parts from top brands like Polaris, Ducati, Honda, & Kubota. Check out Sun Coast Cycle Sports today!


                            Part is off a 1986 Yamaha VMAX

                            Yamaha VMAX V Max Rear Timing Chain Tensioner

                            This one?
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                            • bikerphil
                              Master of XSology
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 8636
                              • South Flori-DUH

                              #119
                              Yes, that's it. You will need to use 1 size shorter bolts with this Vmax unit, the XS tensioner bolts are too long.
                              2H7 (79) owned since '89
                              3H3 owned since '06

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                              • speedlimit85
                                XStremely XSive
                                • Jan 2017
                                • 420
                                • Gainesville, Fl.

                                #120
                                cover off...what to look for? Click image for larger version

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