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  • IanDMacDonald
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Oct 2010
    • 3917
    • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

    #181
    Your post is a little confusing. Reverse bleeding does not consist of depressing the lever. You push the fluid upto the MC from the caliper, pushing the air to the surface. Close the bleeder, then do the other caliper. After all done, tie-up the handle overnight.
    1979 XS1100F
    2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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    • Fearthepack
      XStremely XSive
      • May 2012
      • 255
      • Orlando, Fla.

      #182
      I wasn't sure if plunger was to be depressed or not did both ways still no fluid will rise up to MC.... I have opened the bleeders one at a time and pumped at least 4 fluid fills of MC down through the calipers and still have soft handle... so getting fluid from MC through caliper and out bleeder... but not through bleeder to MC
      1979 F worst one i could find
      to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
      _________________________________

      We can't all get along!

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      • IanDMacDonald
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Oct 2010
        • 3917
        • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

        #183
        Sometimes air can get stuck at the splitter. Try cracking it open. Also, pre-purge the MC by putting your finger over the hole and grab the handle a few times till the pressure builds and spits the fluid.
        1979 XS1100F
        2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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        • Fearthepack
          XStremely XSive
          • May 2012
          • 255
          • Orlando, Fla.

          #184
          Weird fluid flows down just fine but won't flow up just as easy....
          1979 F worst one i could find
          to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
          _________________________________

          We can't all get along!

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          • DiverRay
            Moderator
            • Nov 2004
            • 7602
            • Star, IDAHO

            #185
            Vacuum bleeder from HF helps a LOT! Keep the MC almost full, and pump the fluid down from the MC to the caliper.
            Ray Matteis
            KE6NHG
            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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            • Fearthepack
              XStremely XSive
              • May 2012
              • 255
              • Orlando, Fla.

              #186
              Yes used the vacuum bleeder also.... I can pull and push the fluid down from MC but not even a drop up from bleeder.... Would this be an indication that the calipers may be sticking slightly open and stopping the reverse bleeding action?? Thinking out load...
              1979 F worst one i could find
              to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
              _________________________________

              We can't all get along!

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              • 3Phase
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • May 2008
                • 5529
                • Simi Valley, CA

                #187
                The bleeder port is blocked/plugged.

                It's possible the piston's sticking too but that wouldn't block the bleeder port or the brake line port. The bleeder and the brake line ports are just two holes on different sides of the brake fluid chamber in the caliper, it doesn't matter where the piston sits in the chamber.

                .
                -- Scott
                _____

                2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                1979 XS1100F: parts
                2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                • Fearthepack
                  XStremely XSive
                  • May 2012
                  • 255
                  • Orlando, Fla.

                  #188
                  Originally posted by 3Phase
                  The bleeder port is blocked/plugged.

                  It's possible the piston's sticking too but that wouldn't block the bleeder port or the brake line port. The bleeder and the brake line ports are just two holes on different sides of the brake fluid chamber in the caliper, it doesn't matter where the piston sits in the chamber.

                  .
                  I wouldn't think the screw it's self would be the issue both calipers act the same way.... i can pull or push as much fluid OUT the bleeder screws as I want to...just cant push any INTO the bleeder screws and they are open 3/4 turn....that's why i'm thinking what would cause this no fluid in condition?????
                  1979 F worst one i could find
                  to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
                  _________________________________

                  We can't all get along!

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                  • CaptonZap
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 1748
                    • Denver

                    #189
                    Originally posted by Fearthepack
                    I wouldn't think the screw it's self would be the issue both calipers act the same way.... i can pull or push as much fluid OUT the bleeder screws as I want to...just cant push any INTO the bleeder screws and they are open 3/4 turn....that's why i'm thinking what would cause this no fluid in condition?????


                    CZ

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                    • 3Phase
                      XS-XJ Super Guru
                      • May 2008
                      • 5529
                      • Simi Valley, CA

                      #190
                      Yep, that'd do it, Cap!

                      Originally posted by CaptonZap
                      -- Scott
                      _____

                      2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                      1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                      1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                      1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                      1979 XS1100F: parts
                      2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                      • Fearthepack
                        XStremely XSive
                        • May 2012
                        • 255
                        • Orlando, Fla.

                        #191
                        3Phase are you saying that I may have these bleeders and that is why no reverse bleeding is working?
                        1979 F worst one i could find
                        to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
                        _________________________________

                        We can't all get along!

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                        • 3Phase
                          XS-XJ Super Guru
                          • May 2008
                          • 5529
                          • Simi Valley, CA

                          #192
                          Originally posted by Fearthepack
                          3Phase are you saying that I may have these bleeders and that is why no reverse bleeding is working?
                          Well, it was Cap's idea, I just cleaned up his link and I agree with him that it's possible you have speed bleeders installed.

                          .
                          -- Scott
                          _____

                          2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                          1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                          1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                          1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                          1979 XS1100F: parts
                          2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                          • Fearthepack
                            XStremely XSive
                            • May 2012
                            • 255
                            • Orlando, Fla.

                            #193
                            Would explain it, but I just pulled them (bleeders) and could blow air both directions with no effort.....
                            1979 F worst one i could find
                            to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
                            _________________________________

                            We can't all get along!

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                            • Fearthepack
                              XStremely XSive
                              • May 2012
                              • 255
                              • Orlando, Fla.

                              #194
                              This was beginning to piss me off but now it's starting to intrigue me....something is not functioning correctly... time to take some baby steps and just work through it.
                              1979 F worst one i could find
                              to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
                              _________________________________

                              We can't all get along!

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                              • 3Phase
                                XS-XJ Super Guru
                                • May 2008
                                • 5529
                                • Simi Valley, CA

                                #195
                                It's a technical term -- don't you dare laugh!

                                Originally posted by Fearthepack
                                Would explain it, but I just pulled them (bleeders) and could blow air both directions with no effort.....
                                Another fine idea shot down in flames! I think that'd leave a spooge hole (pressure return) malfunction.

                                If you put a rag around the rear master cylinder and loosen the brake line banjo fitting can you force brake fluid back into the bleeder screw? If the fluid'll go back that far but no farther then the spooge hole's plugged up.


                                BRAKES STICKING? CHECK THE SPOOGE HOLES!
                                Master Cylinder "Spooge Holes" by Ken Talbot, 6/20/00


                                .
                                -- Scott
                                _____

                                2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                                1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                                1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                                1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                                1979 XS1100F: parts
                                2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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