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  • #31
    Beautiful write-up, Steve. The only thing I'd change is to add a note on the CCT adjustment to the end of it. I haven't done the shims on my bike yet, but it seems like that will be a critical step of the reassembly.

    And Phil....my 5-year-old saw that pic and laughed his butt off.
    My Special is as old as I am.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
      So.... who's going to post the picture tutorial with the MP tool?
      Actually, I did one about 12 years ago. Haven't been active here for a long time but have been dropping in lately to have a peek around. Glad to see this forum is still going strong.

      The web page I did needs updating, but I'm not sure I remember the password. Everything is there, but it's a bit of a mess.

      XSsiveone valve adjust
      Brian
      1978E Midlife Crisis - A work in progress
      1984 Kawasaki 550 Ltd - Gone, but not forgotten

      A married man should forget his mistakes. There's no use in two people
      remembering the same thing!

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      • #33
        I have used the tool, it works. And it is a good choice if your changing one or two shims. IMO, if your changing out more than that, then for time purposes, I would use one method or another of the cam methods.

        Not against the tool, just my experiences.
        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


        Previously owned
        93 GSX600F
        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
        81 XS1100 Special
        81 CB750 C
        80 CB750 C
        78 XS750

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        • #34
          Originally posted by JasonRedbeard View Post
          my 5-year-old saw that pic and laughed his butt off
          The kid's got a good sense of humor...
          2H7 (79) owned since '89
          3H3 owned since '06

          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

          ☮

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          • #35
            Originally posted by xssiveone View Post
            XSsiveone valve adjust
            Yep, there's another one of those ground-on-to-make-fit MP tools....
            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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            • #36
              Special

              WOW, not only is my bike "Special" but I must be "Special" too. Am I the only one who can use this tool right out of the box on all 8 valves with no mods or problems
              1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
              1980 XS1100 Special
              1990 V Max
              1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
              1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
              1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
              1974 CB750-Four



              Past/pres Car's
              1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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              • #37
                Almost the same...

                ...as our Elevens, but IMHO some good info and pics for those that have never done the job yet. Actually I did both my XS11 and XJ750 at the same time and swapped shims around on both engines as they are the same diameter

                http://xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=14827.html

                http://xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=29209.html

                HTH
                1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post
                  WOW, not only is my bike "Special" but I must be "Special" too. Am I the only one who can use this tool right out of the box on all 8 valves with no mods or problems
                  +1 I must be Special too.
                  Greg

                  Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                  ― Albert Einstein

                  80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                  The list changes.

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                  • #39
                    Well, it looks like at the end of the season I'll be replacing all of the shims AND the cam chain. So, I probably won't find out if I'm "special".
                    Marty (in Mississippi)
                    XS1100SG
                    XS650SK
                    XS650SH
                    XS650G
                    XS6502F
                    XS650E

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                    • #40
                      I was just reading your cam chain post Marty. Before you go ordering a new chain, check and make sure all the sliders are OK. As in not XSively worn or broken. JAT

                      Those roller chains aren't really prone to wear. I replaced a timing chain in a Mazda V6 just the other day and the chain was the same as what's in our engines, just longer. The chain was actually fine, the tensioner had gone south.
                      Greg

                      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                      ― Albert Einstein

                      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                      The list changes.

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                      • #41
                        Tool

                        Not that special my tools worked out of box also. I think that it can be tuff to get the tool into position on some valves but if you take care its better than pulling the cams for most people. I agree that if you are in a situation where you have multiple valves to get set the cam pull works but in a one or two adjustment I would not use the cam pull method.
                        To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                        Rodan
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
                        1980 G Silverbird
                        Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
                        1198 Overbore kit
                        Grizzly 660 ACCT
                        Barnett Clutch Springs
                        R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
                        122.5 Main Jets
                        ACCT Mod
                        Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
                        Antivibe Bar ends
                        Rear trunk add-on
                        http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/

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                        • #42
                          I was just reading your cam chain post Marty. Before you go ordering a new chain, check and make sure all the sliders are OK. As in not XSively worn or broken. JAT
                          How do I check the sliders? If they are bad, the cam chain damper is NLA. has anyone here come up with a trick to repair it? Does the engine have to be disassembled to remove and replace it? Will my engine be making a lot of noise if the plastic material is gone?

                          I'm going to move this over to the cam chain wear post as well.
                          Marty (in Mississippi)
                          XS1100SG
                          XS650SK
                          XS650SH
                          XS650G
                          XS6502F
                          XS650E

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                          • #43
                            Just gor giggles

                            I went out to the man cave and got my Yamaha shim tool and my MP shim tool out. I tried both on a head I have lying about. Both will work but the MP is quite a bit harder to use. I got to comparing the two and thought you all may like to see what I found. Here is a pic of the two side by side in a vice. Sorry the pic is not clearer but I am not much of a photographer. This may explain why so many have to grind the MP tool. The Mp tool is the top and blackest one. I had never tried the MP one before today and it was a suprise that it sucked so badly.

                            2-79 XS1100 SF
                            2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                            80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                            Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                            • #44
                              My MP tool doesn't look like either one of those.

                              Originally posted by Rasputin


                              Kinda like the one on top but the angle of the tip is different.
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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                              • #45
                                My Mp one says ... MP above the numbers 08-0020. Is yours different?
                                2-79 XS1100 SF
                                2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                                80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                                Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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