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  • #76
    Originally posted by Fearthepack View Post
    Dilemma...... would you use a known running engine that has 35,000 miles with badly worn transmission and suspect abuse. Or an unknown engine with pristine
    trans almost no where on any dogs and the inside of the engine is a pretty golden oil color no signs of excessive heat or abuse don't know mileage???? Gut says use unknown motor.. but head says go with what you know works anyone want to express their opinion???

    I would use the engine with good tranny. If tranny is nice the engine was likely not abused.

    My old bike has 72k miles and still runs good. Doubt your unknown has anywhere close.

    John
    John is in an anonymous city with an Alamo (N29.519227,W-98.678980)

    Go ahead, click on the bikes - you know you want to...the electrons are ready.
    '81 XS1100H - "Enterprise"
    Bob Jones Custom Navy bike: Tkat brace, EBC floating rotors & SS lines, ROX pivot risers, Geezer rectifier, new 3H3 engine

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    • #77
      Got new valve seals installed, re-lapped the valves and painted the engine cases Aluminum. I guess its time to re-install it back into the bike while some of the weight is still off the motor.

      Question: Head and clutch are not yet installed is the weight savings at this point a big plus to get the motor re-installed.... or complete reassemble would be better because installing the head, cams ect is a pain in the ass while engine is in bike? I will be alone so no extra help to lift.
      1979 F worst one i could find
      to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
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      • #78
        Search for threads on engine installs. A lot of folks have set the engine on its side, on a proctective carpet,foam or mat, and set the frame over the engine - get a few bolts in and stand the bike up to complete install.

        I know when I do mine that's the route I'll take.
        1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
        1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
        1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
        1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
        1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

        Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Fearthepack View Post
          Got new valve seals installed, re-lapped the valves and painted the engine cases Aluminum. I guess its time to re-install it back into the bike while some of the weight is still off the motor.

          Question: Head and clutch are not yet installed is the weight savings at this point a big plus to get the motor re-installed.... or complete reassemble would be better because installing the head, cams ect is a pain in the ass while engine is in bike? I will be alone so no extra help to lift.
          Everyone has their preference. Working on an engine outside of the bike is nice. However, installing the engine is only done one of two ways: through the right side, or on it's side. Weight of the head and clutch is not substantial, nor is it your biggest obstacle. The middle drive is the demon of XS engine install/removal. Damn yoke and drive boot hate you. Do what you're comfortable doing. Installing the head while engine is in or out is the same.
          1979 XS1100F
          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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          • #80
            Thanks will check install threads.
            1979 F worst one i could find
            to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
            _________________________________

            We can't all get along!

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            • #81
              Thought I would and this tread got rid of a lot of frustration when working on the tranny.

              http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43665
              1979 F worst one i could find
              to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
              _________________________________

              We can't all get along!

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              • #82
                I just installed an engine into the frame a month ago. I did the engine on it's side, lower the frame over the engine trick. I didn't want to scratch anything, and was by myself. One thing that helps is a come along in the rafters. I used it to lift the assembly upright, and then up so I could install the swingarm and forks.
                Ray Matteis
                KE6NHG
                XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                • #83
                  Got the engine back in just walked it in from the right side. I think not having the head installed made it very easy to get in.....





                  1979 F worst one i could find
                  to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
                  _________________________________

                  We can't all get along!

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                  • #84
                    Opinions please... how long would wire wheeled head bolts stay this way or return to old rusty nuts?

                    1979 F worst one i could find
                    to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
                    _________________________________

                    We can't all get along!

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                    • #85
                      I would paint the nuts. They WILL rust quickly if you are in a "wet" area, or ride in the rain. Factory has them coated with something that kept them clean for a few years.. I painted the head nuts with the top end. I did NOT pull the head, so I just cleaned and used engine paint on everything.
                      Last edited by DiverRay; 03-31-2015, 04:39 PM.
                      Ray Matteis
                      KE6NHG
                      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                      • #86
                        and we don't know what that treatment was right?
                        1979 F worst one i could find
                        to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
                        _________________________________

                        We can't all get along!

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                        • #87
                          They were probably zinc plated.
                          2H7 (79) owned since '89
                          3H3 owned since '06

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                            They were probably zinc plated.
                            I think due to the vintage of the bike, they may be cadmium plated. Zinc plating is an option now.
                            Marty (in Mississippi)
                            XS1100SG
                            XS650SK
                            XS650SH
                            XS650G
                            XS6502F
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                            • #89
                              I'll do a little science project and soak them in evapo-rust then install them and see how long before rust comes back. I painted the head black so touching up the head bolts in black wont be a big deal.
                              1979 F worst one i could find
                              to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
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                              We can't all get along!

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                              • #90
                                Anyone use the Evapo-rust with success need to do my tank as well?
                                1979 F worst one i could find
                                to convert into a bobber/ streetfighter!
                                _________________________________

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