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  • Dennyz
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Jul 2002
    • 1151
    • Olympia, Washington

    #91
    numbers

    FJR / XS - as I know them.

    FJR XS
    ---------------------------------------------
    Caster 26 deg. 29.5 deg
    Trail 4.2" 5.12"
    WB 59.7" 61.9

    Anybody have the swing arm length of the FJR (I think it has changed since it was released)?
    DZ
    Vyger, 'F'
    "The Special", 'SF'
    '08 FJR1300

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    • pggg
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Nov 2004
      • 1609
      • NZ

      #92
      Gar, yeah I meant bicycle speedo, they're real accurate until the speeds get way up there. Chop, looking thru a sprocket PDF catalogue, seems VFR's are restricted to one size rear sprocket, 43 tooth only. I was lucky as my ZX wheel fits Busa sprockets too, available from 38 thru to 46 tooth. I like the 3700@100kph ratio, it's about 400 revs less than stock XS, and gives a relaxed cruise, but still gives the bike great response or 'get up and go' at any revs in ANY gear, any lower than, say, 3500 revs@100kph and the bike becomes basically a 4 speed, with 5th only any use as an overdrive.

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      • xschop
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Feb 2006
        • 1794
        • oklahoma city

        #93
        43/13

        I did the research before and a commercial 13t sprocket from a yamaha warrior (ATV) will fit the xs11 shaft. I would want the 530 sprocket though... where do I look?
        MDRNF
        79F.....Not Stock
        80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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        • pggg
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Nov 2004
          • 1609
          • NZ

          #94
          Gary50 knows of a sprocket cutter, from memory Warriors and Wolverines WONT fit the stock XS shaft, they fit a smaller diameter shaft though the spline pattern is shaped similar with 6 notches, they're also only in 520 pitch.

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          • 50gary
            XStremely XSive
            • Apr 2006
            • 225
            • Saginaw, Michigan. USA Third stone from the sun

            #95
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            Cheers, 50gary

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            • xschop
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Feb 2006
              • 1794
              • oklahoma city

              #96
              pggg

              Hey, pggg what is your 96 kawasaki rim size?. And not to offend, but is your rim true to centerline with the front wheel. I found a 17x 6.0 that I like and think it should work as long as the upper chain doesnt hit the two frame tubes to the pivot point. The lower tube is no problem. I found a way to reroute it without loosing pivot position.I googled 96 zx6r wheel and couldn't find a dimension....thanks....chop
              MDRNF
              79F.....Not Stock
              80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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              • pggg
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Nov 2004
                • 1609
                • NZ

                #97
                Hey Chop, yep, stringlined dead centre rim to rim along with dead centre sprocket to sprocket, 4 1/2 inch rim stamped J17 x MT 4.50, takes 160 - 170 width radials. Later model 6R's went to 170 - 180 width, theres quite a number of Kwaka rims that look identical, they're stamped with different numbers though, mines stamped R1251, back when I scavanged it from a wreckers, I actually thought it was a ZXR400 rim, so brought a new 38 tooth ZXR400 sprocket(520 pitch) for it, only to discover- doh - it was a 96-97 6R after all. Anyone want a new 38 tooth ZXR400 rear sprocket?

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                • xschop
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 1794
                  • oklahoma city

                  #98
                  THANK YOU

                  MAN, I was sweating your reply. I am basing my chain setup from your 25 pics I have saved to a flash drive that I took to work and studied. Your upper chain pic has 25mm clearance and I was begging to wonder if I could get a 17x 6.0 rim on without messing with the 2 upper tubes. I agree with DennyZ, "Go big or go home",so I bought the Triumph SSSA and the honkin' stock 190 rim so I can put on a 200 tire. Looks like it will work. I am not worried about chain position, it will be adjustable at the front sprocket....thanks again...here's my setup
                  MDRNF
                  79F.....Not Stock
                  80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                  • xschop
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1794
                    • oklahoma city

                    #99
                    solid or rubber

                    pggg, are your motor mounts factory rubber?
                    MDRNF
                    79F.....Not Stock
                    80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                    • pggg
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 1609
                      • NZ

                      #100
                      Good one Chop, hopefully with the rim centred the Triumph swingarm pivots will come close to the XS frame pivots. The C/L to sprocket sideways dimension, as in this pic, will give an indication of frame clearance and also where the front sprocket has to sit

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                      • pggg
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 1609
                        • NZ

                        #101
                        Rubber.

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                        • xschop
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 1794
                          • oklahoma city

                          #102
                          another critical question for the guru(s)

                          If you cut the xs11 swingarm exactly in half, does this point line up with the centerline of the rear rim? maybe pggg can answer. This info will save me even having to mess with a homemade jig.....
                          MDRNF
                          79F.....Not Stock
                          80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                          • xschop
                            XS-XJ Guru
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1794
                            • oklahoma city

                            #103
                            sprocket to centerline

                            Hey pggg. my inside sprocket to c/l on this setup is 117.5mm. I checked all the old links reguarding your chain drive.You said 118 was "bang on". so as soon as I find the correct info from the previous question I can start my machining of the S/A bolt spacer .this is gonna be sick
                            MDRNF
                            79F.....Not Stock
                            80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                            • xschop
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 1794
                              • oklahoma city

                              #104
                              I know

                              1 more question. what's your inside sprocket to outter rim distance? Notice the reason why I chose the triumph S/A over the VFR, 11.25 inches end to end (286mm for you metric folk). The spacer will not be diff. to make not to mention the stock 190 tire....the sickness begins.....
                              MDRNF
                              79F.....Not Stock
                              80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                              • pggg
                                XS-XJ Guru
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 1609
                                • NZ

                                #105
                                Hey Chop, place a string on the ground front wheel c/l to rear wheel c/l on your stock XS to find the exact c/l mark between the pivot points, your 117.5mm c/l to inside sprocket is gonna be good to go for lining up a front sprocket, just checked my kwaka rim with a ruler, the rim outer edge to inside sprocket is 18mm. (give or take a mm or so)

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