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  • jetmechmarty
    Master of XSology
    • Nov 2003
    • 7954
    • Coldwater, Mississippi

    #1

    Clutch replacement

    I’m going to replace my friction plates and springs. Is there a good reason I can’t or shouldn’t do the job on the sidestand? I would prefer to leave the basket in place if it looks OK. Will the sidestand lean it far enough that I won’t have to drain the oil?
    Marty (in Mississippi)
    XS1100SG
    XS650SK
    XS650SH
    XS650G
    XS6502F
    XS650E
  • bikerphil
    Master of XSology
    • Jan 2008
    • 8804
    • South Flori-DUH

    #2
    Check for wear on the basket and the boss where the frictions and steels contact. A high mileage bike will probably show some grooving. The oil level should be low enough to not have to drain with it on the sidestand.
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

    07 Triumph Tiger 1050

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • DEEBS11
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Feb 2023
      • 1823
      • Connecticut

      #3
      You might want to replace the kickstart seal when you replace the side cover gasket.

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      • jetmechmarty
        Master of XSology
        • Nov 2003
        • 7954
        • Coldwater, Mississippi

        #4
        Originally posted by DEEBS11
        You might want to replace the kickstart seal when you replace the side cover gasket.
        My ‘80 bike has no kickstart parts. No shaft seal.
        I definitely need to give the sight glass a good cleaning.
        Marty (in Mississippi)
        XS1100SG
        XS650SK
        XS650SH
        XS650G
        XS6502F
        XS650E

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        • cajun31
          Moderator
          • Oct 2003
          • 1916
          • Brandon, MS

          #5
          Originally posted by jetmechmarty

          My ‘80 bike has no kickstart parts. No shaft seal.
          I definitely need to give the sight glass a good cleaning.
          I don't want to speak for Deebs but he may be talking about the seal on the cover where the kick starter would be. 1980 Yamaha XS1100 OEM Clutch Cover | eBay
          2 - 80 LGs bought one new
          81 LH
          02 FXSTB Nighttrain
          22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
          Jim

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          • jetmechmarty
            Master of XSology
            • Nov 2003
            • 7954
            • Coldwater, Mississippi

            #6
            Originally posted by cajun31

            I don't want to speak for Deebs but he may be talking about the seal on the cover where the kick starter would be. 1980 Yamaha XS1100 OEM Clutch Cover | eBay
            Ah. Thanks!
            Marty (in Mississippi)
            XS1100SG
            XS650SK
            XS650SH
            XS650G
            XS6502F
            XS650E

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            • bikerphil
              Master of XSology
              • Jan 2008
              • 8804
              • South Flori-DUH

              #7
              Some pics of refurbishing the boss and basket...

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              2H7 (79) owned since '89
              3H3 owned since '06

              07 Triumph Tiger 1050

              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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              • jetmechmarty
                Master of XSology
                • Nov 2003
                • 7954
                • Coldwater, Mississippi

                #8
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                No filing was necessary. It’s all buttoned up. I’ll test it in the morning. If it tests OK maybe I’ll spend the whole day checking it out.
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                Marty (in Mississippi)
                XS1100SG
                XS650SK
                XS650SH
                XS650G
                XS6502F
                XS650E

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                • jetmechmarty
                  Master of XSology
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 7954
                  • Coldwater, Mississippi

                  #9
                  I’m on a 250 mile loop breaking it in. It feels like the stack is too tall. Shifting is hard. A couple times I had to shut the engine off to get to first while stopped. I made a cable adjustment along the way. It feels right. I’m 91 miles from home. I’ll report back.
                  Marty (in Mississippi)
                  XS1100SG
                  XS650SK
                  XS650SH
                  XS650G
                  XS6502F
                  XS650E

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                  • Larrym
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1383
                    • Tucson

                    #10
                    "Repair Verification Rides/Flights" be like..... ٩(^◡^)۶

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                    GO Marty.... GO! (^▽^)

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                    • jetmechmarty
                      Master of XSology
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 7954
                      • Coldwater, Mississippi

                      #11
                      There’s never time to do it right, but there’s always time to do it over.

                      When I bought my bike in 2003 it indicated that it had 10,000 miles on it. I assumed the clutch was original. It wasn’t. The steel plates have dimples in them. So I put it together and rode 200 miles. The bike is pulling forward with the clutch pulled all the way in. Shifting is difficult. If I’m late downshifting I have to shut the engine off to change gears. I can’t adjust this out. Also, it’s slipping far worse than before. I’ll have to fix it before I ride it again.
                      Marty (in Mississippi)
                      XS1100SG
                      XS650SK
                      XS650SH
                      XS650G
                      XS6502F
                      XS650E

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                      • bikerphil
                        Master of XSology
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 8804
                        • South Flori-DUH

                        #12
                        The factory steels have dimples in them. What frictions did you use? Hopefully not Vesrah.
                        2H7 (79) owned since '89
                        3H3 owned since '06

                        07 Triumph Tiger 1050

                        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                        • DiverRay
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 7767
                          • Star, IDAHO

                          #13
                          Did you start with the adjustment UNDER the cover? Loosen the 12mm lock nut, turn the phillips head in till you feel it drag, then back off 1/4 tune and tighten the lock nut. Do this with the clutch cable very loose, like it will not engage. When done, you then adjust the clutch cable for about 5 to 10mm play at the end of the lever before it starts to pull.
                          Ray Matteis
                          KE6NHG
                          XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                          XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                          • DEEBS11
                            XS-XJ Guru
                            • Feb 2023
                            • 1823
                            • Connecticut

                            #14
                            Not sure this is a materials issue. The clutch seems to be binding and has a fair amount of drag so the gearbox does not shift smoothly. It's not fully releasing when the lever is pulled in. It could be the assembly binding on the "fingers" of the basket. It could be the pressure plate "star" binding because the springs were tightened slightly lop-sided. It could be the stack of plates and pads are out of sequence. You'll find it. Gasket should still work as it's only been one ride.


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                            • jetmechmarty
                              Master of XSology
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 7954
                              • Coldwater, Mississippi

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bikerphil
                              The factory steels have dimples in them. What frictions did you use? Hopefully not Vesrah.
                              Yes, Vesrah.
                              Marty (in Mississippi)
                              XS1100SG
                              XS650SK
                              XS650SH
                              XS650G
                              XS6502F
                              XS650E

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