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  • DEEBS11
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Feb 2023
    • 1421
    • Connecticut

    #61
    Fork seals.




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    • DEEBS11
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Feb 2023
      • 1421
      • Connecticut

      #62
      Kick start seal.



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      • jgonz
        XSive
        • Feb 2021
        • 24
        • Las Cruces, NM

        #63
        So I started getting into this engine. The engine is completely dry, or at least I have not seen any sort of lubricant in any of the insides. I started late so only go a couple of things off. From what I can see, it looks pretty good so far. The gaskets look dry and have no kind of sealant on them. I'll write more tomorrow early. Click image for larger version

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        • Schming
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Jul 2009
          • 2071
          • Pittsburgh,PA

          #64
          IMHO the engine's exterior should be spotless before opening it up to possible contamination
          1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
          1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
          1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
          1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
          1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

          Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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          • jgonz
            XSive
            • Feb 2021
            • 24
            • Las Cruces, NM

            #65
            Schming that's a valid point. There were a couple of things that took place before I got to this point, one of which was running around working on my water well, so my head was in several places at once and I rushed into the disassembly. However, my rationale for doing it like this is that it's a complete breakdown. All of it is coming apart, getting cleaned, bored, sanded, replaced, etc. Any bit of dirt or grease that is kept from the interior is not going to really affect at reassembly because it's coming completely apart. I do understand your rationale, though. And thanks for the input, please keep it coming.

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            • jgonz
              XSive
              • Feb 2021
              • 24
              • Las Cruces, NM

              #66

              Work continues:
              I was working on the bearing caps which are numbered 1 - 5. On the exhaust side everything was normal but the Intake side had 4 and 5 switched. Is there a concern with wear on these or should I just put them in the right order upon reinstallation? Seems silly but you never know.

              I'm working out of the pdf of the manual out of my computer. I'm going to print it out tomorrow so I can take notes on it, I usually like to write in the pages.

              Hopefully I'll be able to start earlier tomorrow.


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              • DEEBS11
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Feb 2023
                • 1421
                • Connecticut

                #67
                Just switch them back but for God sakes, get that sand off the cam lobes and oil those cams & lifters! I hope you did not turn that motor over dry with those abrasives all over the cams. YIKES. Clean the operating room for surgery.

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                • DiverRay
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 7608
                  • Star, IDAHO

                  #68
                  Deebs, he stated that is was going to be a complete teardown. I've also done a teardown on a dirty engine. The cleanup is AFTER it's apart, as we don't know what may be inside.
                  Ray Matteis
                  KE6NHG
                  XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                  XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                  • Radioguylogs
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 1938
                    • Presque Isle, MI

                    #69
                    I would switch the caps back to the correct (original) locations, expecting the clearances to be closer to to the original factory manufacturing process.
                    -Mike
                    _________
                    '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                    '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                    '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                    '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                    '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                    '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                    '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                    Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                    • jgonz
                      XSive
                      • Feb 2021
                      • 24
                      • Las Cruces, NM

                      #70
                      Radioguylogs, I kinda thought that should be the case. Apart from the obvious stuff I found on the outside (suspect wires, cracked connectors, goofy repairs and crazy mods) I suspected there might be stuff to be found once I opened her up. My experience seeing other people's projects have has shown me that well meaning riders don't necessarily do the best jobs.

                      I'm going at a pretty slow pace just because I have only been able to get at her in the afternoon. I also hate working out of a screen so today I headed to the library and printed out the "Engine" and "Clutch and Transmission" chapters out of the manual as well as the Shaft Drive Service Manual that Cajun31 sent me.

                      Here are some pics of today's progress. Looking at the carbon build up I'm glad that I'm getting into this thing. Tomorrow I'm going to carry on and see what else I can find. I'm slated to travel this coming week so not sure how far I'll get. That means that I'll be able to order parts in about two to three weeks. Click image for larger version

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                      • jgonz
                        XSive
                        • Feb 2021
                        • 24
                        • Las Cruces, NM

                        #71
                        BTW: DEEBS11, I didn't answer your question about the shovel... yes and yes... I have that setup for almost 20 years. Originally, I had a dry clutch on that bike with the enclosed primary but I transferred it from that bike to a bike with an open belt. I put this little shop together last year out of a garage that had been damaged on my property. At that point I started taking parts that I had laying around and just put bikes together. I have a few that need little details and I COULD have them running if I didn't care about how they look, but with so many projects I just take them as I can. This particular shovel is very special for me. If you look at the suspension in the rear, it is not a very common setup. It is a plunger system that was usually found in choppers in the 60's and 70's. The paint was going nasty and it had other issues so I took it apart and am itching to get her back on the road. I'm actually wanting to set her up with an open belt. Following are pics of the bike as it was and the open belt that now uses that dry clutch (it's a kick only bike). that bike now has a springer front end.
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                        • DEEBS11
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Feb 2023
                          • 1421
                          • Connecticut

                          #72
                          Originally posted by DiverRay
                          Deebs, he stated that is was going to be a complete teardown. I've also done a teardown on a dirty engine. The cleanup is AFTER it's apart, as we don't know what may be inside.
                          Understood Ray, my thought was the need to turn the motor at all for head disassembly and possibly grinding the sand into the lobe face. That thing was mighty dry.

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                          • DiverRay
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 7608
                            • Star, IDAHO

                            #73
                            All the carbon buildup tells me the P.O. probably ran "premium" gas. These bikes are designed for REGULAR gas, and they DO carbon up if running premium.
                            Ray Matteis
                            KE6NHG
                            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                            • Radioguylogs
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 1938
                              • Presque Isle, MI

                              #74
                              ...and so many folks belive they can improve the performance by increasing the jet sizes
                              -Mike
                              _________
                              '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                              '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                              '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                              '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                              '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                              '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                              '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                              Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                              • DEEBS11
                                XS-XJ Guru
                                • Feb 2023
                                • 1421
                                • Connecticut

                                #75
                                ....or removing the muffler and revving the bike at every stop sign.



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