Detroit Venturer Project

[dbbrian]

I agree - pegs on crash bars with lowers on work fine - see below



Interesting idea about removing the lowers for seasonal differences. Makes sense, but never even thought about it, partially because I know my lowers have been stuck on with some sort of adhesive. I did find some NOS lowers that nearly perfectly match my fairing colour. Winter project

[Radioguylogs]

All I had to do was ride the bike for about 500 miles before the rally to make sure it was reliable.

No, I couldn't leave it alone. The clickety noise was bothering me, so I decided there might be two things I could do before the rally:
(1) Reset the cam chain tension
(2) Re-check the valve shims.

I tried to do #1 last night and broke the cam chain tensioner:



I suppose I was having trouble perceiving the click on the torque wrench and it was at an angle due to interference with the exhaust.




Argh. I just couldn't leave it alone. I had already fixed up that particular tensioner with a helicoil, a new end plug, a new o-ring, and I filed all the previous screw divots off the shaft. I used it to replace the original one because the PO had threaded it with 1/4-20 hardware and I didn't like the mix of english and metric sizes.

I guess it's time to join the ACCT club. I ordered a Vmax tensioner last night. I'll report back when I have the parts. I think the Partzilla gasket will be the hold-up.

-Mike

[2manybikes]

On a positive note, you could have F'd up somethig worse than that. In the long run, the new tensioner will be one less maintnance item and likely one less part to fail. At least it's not a Harley part......

[Radioguylogs]

... one less maintnance item and likely one less part to fail. At least it's not a Harley part......

Seats and mufflers are trustworthy Harley parts, right?

[bikerphil]

And rear shocks.

[2manybikes]

Don't forget backrests!

[kboehringer]

At least it's not a Harley part......

C'Mon..... I saw that one Curtis!!!!

[kboehringer]

Seats and mufflers are trustworthy Harley parts, right?

YEP! Those are perfect on an XS11..... :-)

[Radioguylogs]

Yesterday all the parts were in to fix the CCT.

I bought 2 Vmax ACCT for $10 on eBay. It's convenient that each Vmax has two ACCT.

I had read the sticky about this topic and I saw the recent post by dbbrian (and motoman) about Brian's ACCT. In both places, it is noted the "OE" bolts should used, or the "OE" bolts are too long. It's not clear to me whether "OE" means the XS11 bolts or the Vmax bolts.

Here's what I found:

XS11 Bolts:



XS11 Bolt compared to a Vmax Bolt:



So, it's obviously better to use the Vmax OE bolts to mount the Vmax ACCT on an XS11.

I noted the spring on Vmax ACCT is MUCH stiffer than the stock XS CCT. It does make me worry about wear on the rubber tensioner arm that contacts the cam chain.

Last night I installed the Vmax ACCT using a Vmax gasket and the Vmax bolts. I couldn't help risking waking the wife at midnight. I started it. It ran perfectly, but it leaked around the ACCT.

Today I removed the ACCT and found what I expected. The bolts left witness marks on the inside of the mounting holes where they were rubbing, due to the slightly different mounting hole pattern of the XS11 vs Vmax.

Looking at the ACCT on the engine, I filed both holes about 0.5mm to the right. Then the ACCT fit well. I bolted it up and the leak was gone.

Since I had to remove the ACCT after it was already installed, it gave me an opportunity to compare the plunger position with the stock XS11 CCT vs the Vmax ACCT. I found the XS11 was extended 41mm beyond the flange, and the Vmax was 45mm. That implies the stronger Vmax spring seems to push in by 4mm more than the stock CCT*

*Assuming the chain didn't stretch over the 300 miles after the bike was revived.

So, I was able ride the bike about 75 miles this evening. The engine is a little quieter, but the clickety sound is still there. For now, I'm going to ride it and pay attention to see if the noise gets worse. Probably it's just my imagination worrying about nothing.

This bike sure rides like new despite 35k miles on the clock.


-Mike

[jetmechmarty]

I noted the spring on Vmax ACCT is MUCH stiffer than the stock XS CCT. It does make me worry about wear on the rubber tensioner arm that contacts the cam chain.

-Mike

I had that concern as well. I think I may have used a 550 Vision tensioner. I have since lost track of how long ago that was.

[MPittma100]

Mike, I've experienced a similar noise that turned out to be an exhaust leak at the cylinder head to pipe gasket. May be able to tighten header nuts to see if that cures it.

[Radioguylogs]

Mike, I've experienced a similar noise that turned out to be an exhaust leak at the cylinder head to pipe gasket. May be able to tighten header nuts to see if that cures it.

This noise does sound exactly like an exhaust leak, so I tightened all the nuts on the head, and I also tightened all the clamps in the system. No joy, but it doesn't prove it is not an exhaust leak. Maybe I should light a cigar and try blowing smoke at all suspect areas.

[DiverRay]

With the fairing you hear a LOT of engine noise you didn't know it made! Just ride it, and ONLY worry if the noise gets louder. You'll probably not hear it after a few days of riding.

[Radioguylogs]

With the fairing you hear a LOT of engine noise you didn't know it made! Just ride it, and ONLY worry if the noise gets louder. You'll probably not hear it after a few days of riding.

That's the truth, even more so with the Pacifico fairing that resonates at various RPM frequencies.

The fairings act like a parabolic reflector to focus the engine sound on your head!

[dbbrian]

Hi Mike - the ACCT you pictured on the right looks the same as the one I used. Mine came with bolts that were shorter than the original, which as I understand might be unusual. I used them. The picture below on the right shows the deeper shoulder of the original CCT (top) compared to the shllow shoulder of the ACCT (bottom). Short bolts are in the ACCT in my pic. You can see why shorter bolts are required.