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  • I agree - pegs on crash bars with lowers on work fine - see below



    Interesting idea about removing the lowers for seasonal differences. Makes sense, but never even thought about it, partially because I know my lowers have been stuck on with some sort of adhesive. I did find some NOS lowers that nearly perfectly match my fairing colour. Winter project
    Last edited by dbbrian; 08-16-2020, 03:11 PM.
    '78 XS1100E (the newest bike I've ever owned)
    '74 CB350F1 (under restoration)
    '72 RT2 MX360 (gone but not forgotten)

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    • All I had to do was ride the bike for about 500 miles before the rally to make sure it was reliable.

      No, I couldn't leave it alone. The clickety noise was bothering me, so I decided there might be two things I could do before the rally:
      (1) Reset the cam chain tension
      (2) Re-check the valve shims.

      I tried to do #1 last night and broke the cam chain tensioner:



      I suppose I was having trouble perceiving the click on the torque wrench and it was at an angle due to interference with the exhaust.




      Argh. I just couldn't leave it alone. I had already fixed up that particular tensioner with a helicoil, a new end plug, a new o-ring, and I filed all the previous screw divots off the shaft. I used it to replace the original one because the PO had threaded it with 1/4-20 hardware and I didn't like the mix of english and metric sizes.

      I guess it's time to join the ACCT club. I ordered a Vmax tensioner last night. I'll report back when I have the parts. I think the Partzilla gasket will be the hold-up.

      -Mike
      -Mike
      _________
      '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
      '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
      '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
      '79 XS750SF 17k miles
      '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
      '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
      '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

      Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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      • On a positive note, you could have F'd up somethig worse than that. In the long run, the new tensioner will be one less maintnance item and likely one less part to fail. At least it's not a Harley part......

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        • Originally posted by 2manybikes View Post
          ... one less maintnance item and likely one less part to fail. At least it's not a Harley part......
          Seats and mufflers are trustworthy Harley parts, right?
          -Mike
          _________
          '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
          '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
          '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
          '79 XS750SF 17k miles
          '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
          '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
          '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

          Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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          • And rear shocks.
            2H7 (79) owned since '89
            3H3 owned since '06

            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

            ☮

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            • Don't forget backrests!

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              • Originally posted by 2manybikes View Post
                At least it's not a Harley part......
                C'Mon..... I saw that one Curtis!!!!
                Kurt Boehringer
                Peachtree City, Georgia

                1970 - CT70K0 - Mini-Trail
                1978 - SR500 - Thumper
                1979 - CT70H - Mini-Trail
                1979 - XS1100SF - Pensacola
                1980 - XS850SG - Rocky
                1980 - XS1100SG - The Ugly Duck
                1980 - XS1100SG - Mayberry Duck
                1981 - XS1100SH - DEAD Duck Cafe'
                1981 - XJ550 Maxim - Nancy's Mini-Max
                1982 - XJ650 SECA - Hurricane
                1986 - FJ1200 - Georgia Big Red
                1992 - FZR1000 - Genesis
                2016 - FJR1300A - Montgomery

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                • Originally posted by Radioguylogs View Post

                  Seats and mufflers are trustworthy Harley parts, right?
                  YEP! Those are perfect on an XS11..... :-)
                  Kurt Boehringer
                  Peachtree City, Georgia

                  1970 - CT70K0 - Mini-Trail
                  1978 - SR500 - Thumper
                  1979 - CT70H - Mini-Trail
                  1979 - XS1100SF - Pensacola
                  1980 - XS850SG - Rocky
                  1980 - XS1100SG - The Ugly Duck
                  1980 - XS1100SG - Mayberry Duck
                  1981 - XS1100SH - DEAD Duck Cafe'
                  1981 - XJ550 Maxim - Nancy's Mini-Max
                  1982 - XJ650 SECA - Hurricane
                  1986 - FJ1200 - Georgia Big Red
                  1992 - FZR1000 - Genesis
                  2016 - FJR1300A - Montgomery

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                  • Yesterday all the parts were in to fix the CCT.

                    I bought 2 Vmax ACCT for $10 on eBay. It's convenient that each Vmax has two ACCT.

                    I had read the sticky about this topic and I saw the recent post by dbbrian (and motoman) about Brian's ACCT. In both places, it is noted the "OE" bolts should used, or the "OE" bolts are too long. It's not clear to me whether "OE" means the XS11 bolts or the Vmax bolts.

                    Here's what I found:

                    XS11 Bolts:

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                    XS11 Bolt compared to a Vmax Bolt:

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                    So, it's obviously better to use the Vmax OE bolts to mount the Vmax ACCT on an XS11.

                    I noted the spring on Vmax ACCT is MUCH stiffer than the stock XS CCT. It does make me worry about wear on the rubber tensioner arm that contacts the cam chain.

                    Last night I installed the Vmax ACCT using a Vmax gasket and the Vmax bolts. I couldn't help risking waking the wife at midnight. I started it. It ran perfectly, but it leaked around the ACCT.

                    Today I removed the ACCT and found what I expected. The bolts left witness marks on the inside of the mounting holes where they were rubbing, due to the slightly different mounting hole pattern of the XS11 vs Vmax.

                    Looking at the ACCT on the engine, I filed both holes about 0.5mm to the right. Then the ACCT fit well. I bolted it up and the leak was gone.

                    Since I had to remove the ACCT after it was already installed, it gave me an opportunity to compare the plunger position with the stock XS11 CCT vs the Vmax ACCT. I found the XS11 was extended 41mm beyond the flange, and the Vmax was 45mm. That implies the stronger Vmax spring seems to push in by 4mm more than the stock CCT*

                    *Assuming the chain didn't stretch over the 300 miles after the bike was revived.

                    So, I was able ride the bike about 75 miles this evening. The engine is a little quieter, but the clickety sound is still there. For now, I'm going to ride it and pay attention to see if the noise gets worse. Probably it's just my imagination worrying about nothing.

                    This bike sure rides like new despite 35k miles on the clock.


                    -Mike
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                    -Mike
                    _________
                    '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                    '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                    '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                    '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                    '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                    '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                    '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                    Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                    • Originally posted by Radioguylogs View Post

                      I noted the spring on Vmax ACCT is MUCH stiffer than the stock XS CCT. It does make me worry about wear on the rubber tensioner arm that contacts the cam chain.

                      -Mike
                      I had that concern as well. I think I may have used a 550 Vision tensioner. I have since lost track of how long ago that was.

                      Marty (in Mississippi)
                      XS1100SG
                      XS650SK
                      XS650SH
                      XS650G
                      XS6502F
                      XS650E

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                      • Mike, I've experienced a similar noise that turned out to be an exhaust leak at the cylinder head to pipe gasket. May be able to tighten header nuts to see if that cures it.
                        1981 XS1100H Venturer
                        K&N Air Filter
                        ACCT
                        Custom Paint by Deitz
                        Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                        Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                        Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                        Stebel Nautilus Horn
                        EBC Front Rotors
                        Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                        Mike

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                        • Originally posted by MPittma100 View Post
                          Mike, I've experienced a similar noise that turned out to be an exhaust leak at the cylinder head to pipe gasket. May be able to tighten header nuts to see if that cures it.

                          This noise does sound exactly like an exhaust leak, so I tightened all the nuts on the head, and I also tightened all the clamps in the system. No joy, but it doesn't prove it is not an exhaust leak. Maybe I should light a cigar and try blowing smoke at all suspect areas.
                          -Mike
                          _________
                          '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                          '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                          '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                          '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                          '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                          '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                          '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                          Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                          • With the fairing you hear a LOT of engine noise you didn't know it made! Just ride it, and ONLY worry if the noise gets louder. You'll probably not hear it after a few days of riding.
                            Ray Matteis
                            KE6NHG
                            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                            • Originally posted by DiverRay View Post
                              With the fairing you hear a LOT of engine noise you didn't know it made! Just ride it, and ONLY worry if the noise gets louder. You'll probably not hear it after a few days of riding.
                              That's the truth, even more so with the Pacifico fairing that resonates at various RPM frequencies.

                              The fairings act like a parabolic reflector to focus the engine sound on your head!
                              -Mike
                              _________
                              '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                              '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                              '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                              '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                              '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                              '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                              '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                              Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                              • Hi Mike - the ACCT you pictured on the right looks the same as the one I used. Mine came with bolts that were shorter than the original, which as I understand might be unusual. I used them. The picture below on the right shows the deeper shoulder of the original CCT (top) compared to the shllow shoulder of the ACCT (bottom). Short bolts are in the ACCT in my pic. You can see why shorter bolts are required.

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                                Last edited by dbbrian; 09-07-2020, 05:11 PM.
                                '78 XS1100E (the newest bike I've ever owned)
                                '74 CB350F1 (under restoration)
                                '72 RT2 MX360 (gone but not forgotten)

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