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  • #46
    Originally posted by donebysunday View Post
    If it truly is non E premium sitting for a few years should not affect it's degrade as much or corrosion/chemical reaction with the parts turning the fuel green. Let my 70 GTO sit for 3 years with 1/2 tank of Sunoco 260 and fired right up when an emergency caused me to put it back on the road. Still would have some problem with evaporation but did not experience any difficulties with MMO added, it's unbelievable what this stuff can do to clean the fuel system tank/carbs/valves/pistons.
    The premium gas is what's in it now not what was stored in her.
    Rob
    KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

    1978 XS1100E Modified
    1978 XS500E
    1979 XS1100F Restored
    1980 XS1100 SG
    1981 Suzuki GS1100
    1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
    1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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    • #47
      Originally posted by XJOK2PLAY View Post
      Rob,
      JAT, have you tried another spark plug in #2?
      Maybe it's a bad plug? Had that happen to me once.
      New set of plugs, one was factory defective internally.

      If not, and #2 is quite a bit cooler at the header than the others, I'd focus on that cylinder... (ignition, fuel, compression...)
      I wouldn't think it would be a coil problem, but perhaps a wire.
      Coil should affect 2 cylinders, I would think...but ya never know.

      If it's ignition miss, it will show up on your vacuum guage when it happens.

      Header temp trick is a good indicator of cylinder performance, and helps identify which one's giving you the problem, most times.
      The plugs are going back into the engine randomly so it is likely a different plug at least a few times. but I will be checking them as well. I have lots of them here LOL.
      KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

      1978 XS1100E Modified
      1978 XS500E
      1979 XS1100F Restored
      1980 XS1100 SG
      1981 Suzuki GS1100
      1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
      1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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      • #48
        Originally posted by mack View Post
        Been a while since I've seen you. Check the diaphram for holes in that #2 carb or at least verify the lip is seated properly.
        Did you get the Katana restored? Hope to see you at next years rally. Coming up to Ottawa next Friday to drop my daughter off at Carleton U. Pm me your address again, I know your close so I could drop by and have a listen. I can bring a set of known carbs with me for you to try. Then we'd know if it's carbs or ignition. You could chase your tail for weeks. I busted my right hand so wrenching is out for me but sometimes two heads.......
        Hey Mack, I will check the diaphams again but they looked good and do stay in the up position when ther air box side mouth port is covered. If your comming up and can bring a set of known good carbs that would be excelent. I could have the bike ready to receive them, pop them on and see what happens. I will PM you my address and phone # and let you know if I sort her out myself bertween now and then. y compression gage is not working so I cant confirm compression but i really have no reason to beleive that there a top end issue going on.
        Rob
        KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

        1978 XS1100E Modified
        1978 XS500E
        1979 XS1100F Restored
        1980 XS1100 SG
        1981 Suzuki GS1100
        1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
        1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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        • #49
          Stuff

          Rob I'll bring some stuff with me. We can do the compression and install the carbs after. Do you need coils. I have some accels here that are brand new, mean for my E but we can check them out . I'll bring new plugs and caps just in case.
          mack
          79 XS 1100 SF Special
          HERMES
          original owner
          http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

          81 XS 1100 LH MNS
          SPICA
          http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

          78 XS 11E
          IOTA
          https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
          https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



          Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
          Frankford, Ont, Canada
          613-398-6186

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          • #50
            Originally posted by mack View Post
            Rob I'll bring some stuff with me. We can do the compression and install the carbs after. Do you need coils. I have some accels here that are brand new, mean for my E but we can check them out . I'll bring new plugs and caps just in case.
            Hi again Mack, I have the excel coils off my hop up bike installed now so I'm pretty sure it's not the coils themselves but could be the signal to them from the pick ups which I have confirmed don't have any broken leads. I'm goeing to continue to work on these carbs for now in case I can get her going. I still think it's some carb issue due to the way the RPMs float when I give the throttle a twist and let go.
            Rob
            KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

            1978 XS1100E Modified
            1978 XS500E
            1979 XS1100F Restored
            1980 XS1100 SG
            1981 Suzuki GS1100
            1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
            1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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            • #51
              Okay, carb 1,3 and 4 are on the money for the fuel level bench test but #2 is still flooding. Needle valve is soaking in carb cleaner as I type this so I'm really hoping this is the issue given that #2 is the carb that the others are synced to.
              Rob
              KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

              1978 XS1100E Modified
              1978 XS500E
              1979 XS1100F Restored
              1980 XS1100 SG
              1981 Suzuki GS1100
              1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
              1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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              • #52
                Well

                actually #3 is the carb asll the others are sync'd to. But with one of the other three flooding it will cause a big stumble. Sounds like your getting close. May want to check to make sure the float isn't holed in that carb. Do the old boiling water trick and watch for a tril of bubbles. Or shake the crap out of it if the lady is home and won't loan you a pot. If it has any fluid in it, it's toast. Let me know either way cuz I have a couple spares that are good.
                mack
                79 XS 1100 SF Special
                HERMES
                original owner
                http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                SPICA
                http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                78 XS 11E
                IOTA
                https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                Frankford, Ont, Canada
                613-398-6186

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                • #53
                  brass float repair

                  If you suspect a float has a hole, use a heat gun or hair dryer and heat the float slightly. Any gas or moisture in the float will be apparent on the outside of the float. A touch of solder to the leaking area and the float will be as good as new.
                  79 1100 SF Carmine Red stock
                  85 Honda v65 Magna
                  70 Yamaha HS1 90cc twin Californian Orange
                  02 Road King (retirement gift)
                  First bike-s 2-1967 Yamaha YM2C Big Bear Scramblers

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by vedgar View Post
                    If you suspect a float has a hole, use a heat gun or hair dryer and heat the float slightly. Any gas or moisture in the float will be apparent on the outside of the float. A touch of solder to the leaking area and the float will be as good as new.
                    I have replaced the brass floats with plastic floats that are not hollow.
                    Rob
                    KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                    1978 XS1100E Modified
                    1978 XS500E
                    1979 XS1100F Restored
                    1980 XS1100 SG
                    1981 Suzuki GS1100
                    1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                    1983 Honda CB900 Custom

                    Comment


                    • #55
                      Originally posted by mack View Post
                      actually #3 is the carb asll the others are sync'd to. But with one of the other three flooding it will cause a big stumble. Sounds like your getting close. May want to check to make sure the float isn't holed in that carb. Do the old boiling water trick and watch for a tril of bubbles. Or shake the crap out of it if the lady is home and won't loan you a pot. If it has any fluid in it, it's toast. Let me know either way cuz I have a couple spares that are good.
                      Hey Mack, My Factory manual says #2 is fixed and to sync #1 to #2, 3 & 4 to each other and then pair 3 & 4 to 1 & 2. In any case I changed out the needle valve and it appeared to be sealing but fuel level was way to high or it still leaks. I'll be looking at it again tomorrow to see if the needle is getting fouled when the carb is turned over or if in deed it is still leaking.
                      Rob
                      KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                      1978 XS1100E Modified
                      1978 XS500E
                      1979 XS1100F Restored
                      1980 XS1100 SG
                      1981 Suzuki GS1100
                      1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                      1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                      • #56
                        Rob

                        Just try matching 1&2, then 4 to 3 then bring all four in line with the center screw. The master idle is linked to #3.
                        mack
                        79 XS 1100 SF Special
                        HERMES
                        original owner
                        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                        81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                        SPICA
                        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                        78 XS 11E
                        IOTA
                        https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                        https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                        Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                        Frankford, Ont, Canada
                        613-398-6186

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                        • #57
                          Yes, Master idle is controled at #3. I will not attempt to sync and idle them untill I get this #2 carb issue settled.
                          Rob
                          KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                          1978 XS1100E Modified
                          1978 XS500E
                          1979 XS1100F Restored
                          1980 XS1100 SG
                          1981 Suzuki GS1100
                          1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                          1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by 79XS11F View Post
                            Yes, Master idle is controled at #3. I will not attempt to sync and idle them untill I get this #2 carb issue settled.
                            Rob
                            JAT, using a thicker washer under the float needle seat will lower the fuel level in the bowl by the difference in thicknes of the AL washer vs the fiber washer. Might only translate to a mm or 2 but just thought I would mention it...
                            '79 XS11 F
                            Stock except K&N

                            '79 XS11 SF
                            Stock, no title.

                            '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                            GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                            "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                            • #59
                              I had that issue with the early carbs. If you overtighten the float valve in the carb body it'll crack and leak.
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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                              • #60
                                Fiber washers are sold at Lowes (and maybe Ace) but they are pretty thin, so you will have to probably double-up with those to prevent too much bending of the tang.
                                Skids (Sid Hansen)

                                Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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