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  • #16
    Originally posted by skids View Post
    OK, so I say that Brant wins with his "science project" assessment. Personally, I would try the carb spray technique before tearing the carbs off of the bank-'o-carbs. This is seriously easier and I have had great success with that. No need to remove butterfly shafts and no need to cuss God while you separate the carbs from the bracket! (I have begged forgiveness!)
    I don't recall anyone saying to separate the carbs.
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

    The list changes.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BA80 View Post
      I don't recall anyone saying to separate the carbs.
      Hey Greg,

      Probably inferred with regards to checking the fuel inlet "T's", which they may have felt required the carbs seperated to check the T's. I know they can be checked by just removing the float valve seat and screen, and then can be accessed with carb cleaner spray to insure it can flow. But after reviewing the carb bodies Grant/Mack sent me, I was surprised to see how SMALL the little hole is at the inside END of the Carb body T fitting where it leads into the carb body/float valve needle seat area.

      T.C.
      T. C. Gresham
      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
      History shows again and again,
      How nature points out the folly of men!

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      • #18
        You WOULD have to separate them to clean them properly but not to check them.

        The aluminum inside those T's will corrode and close up. The one I ran into I couldn't clean without destroying it as it was badly deteriorated so it had to be replaced. it was plugged solid going into one carb. That was on the green 79.
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BA80 View Post
          Rocky Mountain HIGH.
          Musta' been the 14,101ft. atop Pikes Peak.
          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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          • #20
            Meanwhile, back in Denver.........




            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

            ― Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

            The list changes.

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            • #21
              Welcome Back Rob.
              Phil
              1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
              1983 XJ 650 Maxim
              2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                Meanwhile, back in Denver.........




                I avoid THAT side of the 'hill'.

                BTW, your comment comparing Colo. mountains to western Montana.........could'nt agree more, specially from Big Hole Nat'l Btlfd up to Missoula with the Bitterroots as a backround drop. Can't forget about Cody's Nat'lFirearmsMuesum either!
                Last edited by motoman; 08-13-2014, 12:10 PM.
                81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                • #23
                  Hey Rob...just wondering with all that assy and dis-assy of the carbs if you are re-synching them each time??? since no one has mentioned it... Hope you can narrow it down...
                  1980 XS650G Special-Two
                  1993 Honda ST1100

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MaximPhil View Post
                    Welcome Back Rob.
                    Phil
                    Thanks Phil )
                    KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                    1978 XS1100E Modified
                    1978 XS500E
                    1979 XS1100F Restored
                    1980 XS1100 SG
                    1981 Suzuki GS1100
                    1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                    1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                    • #25
                      I would go back and reconfirm those things in your first post. Years ago I put a new dist cap on a Toyota. On a particularly humid day in this northern province of mexico (spell check tried to make me cap the m in that word as if I had some respect for them)it would not start. After several days and too much money that new cap was the problem. I considered it confirmed. I was wrong. What I had ruled out was my problem.
                      79SF
                      XJ11
                      78E

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SFerinTEXAS View Post
                        I would go back and reconfirm those things in your first post. Years ago I put a new dist cap on a Toyota. On a particularly humid day in this northern province of mexico (spell check tried to make me cap the m in that word as if I had some respect for them)it would not start. After several days and too much money that new cap was the problem. I considered it confirmed. I was wrong. What I had ruled out was my problem.
                        That's what I'm going to do. Give it a COMPLETE tune up and ANOTHER carb cleaning.
                        Rob
                        KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                        1978 XS1100E Modified
                        1978 XS500E
                        1979 XS1100F Restored
                        1980 XS1100 SG
                        1981 Suzuki GS1100
                        1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                        1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                        • #27
                          Okay, So yesterday I checked and adjusted the valves and confirmed the valve timing. I cleaned the carbs again and they are clean. I set all the floats at 1" and they are all the same. Installed the carbs and there's no leakage of gas and the bike still dose not run right. Here's what I got.
                          - Misfire on ether #1 or #2 as felt at the tail pipe. bit od back firing. I would call it occasional.
                          - When I give her a little twist and let go the RPMs seem to float and come down slowly as compared to the typical on/off of a crisp XS1100 that runs well.
                          - she won't hold an idle setting.
                          - at idle the vacuum advance is bouncing but not from stop to stop. but there is quivering within a 1/4" back and forth at a high speed.
                          The exhaust note dose not sound right.

                          How does one check for exhaust system blockages? Is there any way to do this with out pulling the exhaust? I do feel exhaust flowing on both sides however.
                          So I guess I will have to do the on the bench fuel height in the bowls thing which I hate do to the time it takes to it. Any other input from anyone will be approached. There's not much "nice" riding time left up here so I would be happy to have her sorted out sooner rather then later .
                          Rob
                          KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                          1978 XS1100E Modified
                          1978 XS500E
                          1979 XS1100F Restored
                          1980 XS1100 SG
                          1981 Suzuki GS1100
                          1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                          1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                          • #28
                            Are the timing advance mechanisms free? Checked timing?
                            Marty (in Mississippi)
                            XS1100SG
                            XS650SK
                            XS650SH
                            XS650G
                            XS6502F
                            XS650E

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                            • #29
                              I haven't seen anywhere in this thread where you've synced them.
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by madmax-im View Post
                                Hey Rob...just wondering with all that assy and dis-assy of the carbs if you are re-synching them each time??? since no one has mentioned it... Hope you can narrow it down...
                                I did ask this question........
                                1980 XS650G Special-Two
                                1993 Honda ST1100

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