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  • #16
    First video!

    The second video is uploading, I have the carbs out and you can see the sticking butterfly


    79F
    "Excelsior"
    Honda gl1100 handlebar
    Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
    OE headers,Jardine slipons
    Hid headlight 6000k
    Stock jets
    Shinko 712 F & R
    Oe hardbags and luggage rack
    TC fuse block
    K&n filter with oe airbox
    Raptor 660 Acct

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    • #17
      I would try flattening the washer on the throttle linkage, extreme left, and loosening the nut slightly. I removed mine to zinc plate the washer and nut and when I put them back on, I over tightened them slightly and found the throttle stuck. Might be worth a try...
      XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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      • #18
        Second video finally finished.

        79F
        "Excelsior"
        Honda gl1100 handlebar
        Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
        OE headers,Jardine slipons
        Hid headlight 6000k
        Stock jets
        Shinko 712 F & R
        Oe hardbags and luggage rack
        TC fuse block
        K&n filter with oe airbox
        Raptor 660 Acct

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        • #19
          OK. #1 is the easiest to remove from the rack. Take it off and figure out what's hanging up.
          Greg

          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

          ― Albert Einstein

          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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          • #20
            PS......do it in a pan with tall sides, like a plastic dish pan. So you don't have any tiny pieces ( like a tiny detent ball for the choke rod ) fly away into never never (never find it) land.
            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

            ― Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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            • #21
              Are you sure that there is nothing actually stuck in the bore of the carb? A tiny piece of grit or whatever. The brass butterfly would tend to force it into the softer aluminium. Have you opened up the butterfly and felt in there, and on the edge of the butterfly itself?
              XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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              • #22
                Great video Spark!
                1979 XS1100F
                2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                • #23
                  Today I'll get back to the carb diagnosing...

                  Yesterday I decided to go to the gym with my buddy whos a Sgt in the army...

                  Needless to say, sitting down and working on the carbs will be a blessing after working on cars all day at work today....
                  79F
                  "Excelsior"
                  Honda gl1100 handlebar
                  Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                  OE headers,Jardine slipons
                  Hid headlight 6000k
                  Stock jets
                  Shinko 712 F & R
                  Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                  TC fuse block
                  K&n filter with oe airbox
                  Raptor 660 Acct

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                  • #24
                    GENTLEMEN I think I found the PROBLEM!!


                    FIRST WE HAVE MY PROFESSIONAL DIAGNOSIS video walkthrough



                    Then I had this BRIGHT IDEA
                    see the problem? I do




                    My next problem is I dont have the proper screwdriver tip to fit the screws
                    Last edited by sparkfly88; 11-14-2013, 06:47 PM.
                    79F
                    "Excelsior"
                    Honda gl1100 handlebar
                    Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                    OE headers,Jardine slipons
                    Hid headlight 6000k
                    Stock jets
                    Shinko 712 F & R
                    Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                    TC fuse block
                    K&n filter with oe airbox
                    Raptor 660 Acct

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                    • #25
                      The butterfly valve is WAY off center in the throat of that carb. Have you loosened the 2 screws that hold it and see if it frees up?

                      Also, if that nut on the end of the shaft ( right side of video outside the carb) is too tight it will cause sticking too.
                      Greg

                      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                      ― Albert Einstein

                      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                        The butterfly valve is WAY off center in the throat of that carb. Have you loosened the 2 screws that hold it and see if it frees up?

                        Also, if that nut on the end of the shaft ( right side of video outside the carb) is too tight it will cause sticking too.
                        I have three different tips for my driver, none of which fit just right for me to trust it...

                        How soft are the screws?
                        79F
                        "Excelsior"
                        Honda gl1100 handlebar
                        Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                        OE headers,Jardine slipons
                        Hid headlight 6000k
                        Stock jets
                        Shinko 712 F & R
                        Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                        TC fuse block
                        K&n filter with oe airbox
                        Raptor 660 Acct

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                        • #27
                          A GOOD #2 Phillips is what you need. Set it in the head by lightly tapping it in and turn the screws counter clockwise carefully slowly increasing force and they will come loose. Set the carb on a bench or table so you can hold the driver in there good. Some penetrating oil wouldn't hurt either. You don't need to take them out, just loosen them.

                          Before you do that loosen the nut on the shaft and see if that helps.
                          Greg

                          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                          ― Albert Einstein

                          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                          The list changes.

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                          • #28
                            okay, I got everything loose.

                            I can get the butterfly to act smoothly without that nut on the side.

                            But the MOMENT that nut comes into play even finger tight, things start binding up.


                            Whats the correct procedure to setting this?


                            EDIT


                            GOT IT!!

                            My problem was that one of the spring coils, sunk into the gap that was made when I loosened everything

                            Now its all tightened and working how it should be!
                            Last edited by sparkfly88; 11-14-2013, 07:31 PM.
                            79F
                            "Excelsior"
                            Honda gl1100 handlebar
                            Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                            OE headers,Jardine slipons
                            Hid headlight 6000k
                            Stock jets
                            Shinko 712 F & R
                            Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                            TC fuse block
                            K&n filter with oe airbox
                            Raptor 660 Acct

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                            • #29
                              That nut doesn't need to be "tight". It has a washer that bends over the flats to keep it from backing off. Screw it on to the point just before it starts binding and lock it there with the washer.

                              Then, close the butterfly all the way. Make sure it is centered good in the bore and retighten the screws.

                              Understand?
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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                              • #30
                                Just saw your edit. COOL! I suspected it was something simple like that.

                                There's all kinds of crazy stuff that can drive you up a wall with these bikes.
                                Greg

                                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                                ― Albert Einstein

                                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                                The list changes.

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