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  • #61
    http://static.photobucket.com/player...505_181553.mp4
    79F
    "Excelsior"
    Honda gl1100 handlebar
    Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
    OE headers,Jardine slipons
    Hid headlight 6000k
    Stock jets
    Shinko 712 F & R
    Oe hardbags and luggage rack
    TC fuse block
    K&n filter with oe airbox
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    • #62
      Well it runs, try with the air box attached and a filter in there. They don't run too well with the backs of the carbs open like that. I'd check the sync also.
      2H7 (79)
      3H3

      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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      • #63
        Okay. Will do.

        I'll also finish tuning it when I get the baffle and packing installed in the muffler
        79F
        "Excelsior"
        Honda gl1100 handlebar
        Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
        OE headers,Jardine slipons
        Hid headlight 6000k
        Stock jets
        Shinko 712 F & R
        Oe hardbags and luggage rack
        TC fuse block
        K&n filter with oe airbox
        Raptor 660 Acct

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        • #64
          I don't think my bike likes the carbtune at all.

          It came today and I hooked it up.

          My carbs are a little off, pretty good for eyeballing it.... But it hated it.


          So, I think I'm gonna remove the carbs, get the OE type floats so I know without a doubt those will be right...


          It was purring away yesterday... Today, it's backfiring and blowing out the carbs at times.
          When it finally decides to idle... It'll be fine for a bit, then it'll skyrocket to 4k rpm and sit there till I turn the idle down...

          Ugh.

          Frustrating.
          79F
          "Excelsior"
          Honda gl1100 handlebar
          Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
          OE headers,Jardine slipons
          Hid headlight 6000k
          Stock jets
          Shinko 712 F & R
          Oe hardbags and luggage rack
          TC fuse block
          K&n filter with oe airbox
          Raptor 660 Acct

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          • #65
            Ya know.... It sounds timing related.... Backfires and carb burps....


            I think I'll run out and get a timing light and check that out before fartin around with the carbs more...

            Ya think ?
            79F
            "Excelsior"
            Honda gl1100 handlebar
            Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
            OE headers,Jardine slipons
            Hid headlight 6000k
            Stock jets
            Shinko 712 F & R
            Oe hardbags and luggage rack
            TC fuse block
            K&n filter with oe airbox
            Raptor 660 Acct

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            • #66
              You don't need a light, just put a mark where the plate meets the engine case, loosen the 2 screws and rotate the plate CCW a little to advance. That way you can put it back to where it was if it doesn't help.
              2H7 (79)
              3H3

              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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              • #67
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUJ_...e_gdata_player
                79F
                "Excelsior"
                Honda gl1100 handlebar
                Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                OE headers,Jardine slipons
                Hid headlight 6000k
                Stock jets
                Shinko 712 F & R
                Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                TC fuse block
                K&n filter with oe airbox
                Raptor 660 Acct

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                • #68
                  What are your idle mix screws set at right now?
                  Nathan
                  KD9ARL

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                  1978 XS1100E
                  K&N Filter
                  #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                  OEM Exhaust
                  ATK Fork Brace
                  LED Dash lights
                  Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                  Green Monster Coils
                  SS Brake Lines
                  Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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                  • #69
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxmM...e_gdata_player


                    In a nutshell.... If you don't wanna watch... It floors itself now if I touch the accelerator.
                    79F
                    "Excelsior"
                    Honda gl1100 handlebar
                    Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                    OE headers,Jardine slipons
                    Hid headlight 6000k
                    Stock jets
                    Shinko 712 F & R
                    Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                    TC fuse block
                    K&n filter with oe airbox
                    Raptor 660 Acct

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                    • #70
                      Put your idle mix screws at 3 turns out and start over. 1.5 is too lean.
                      Nathan
                      KD9ARL

                      μολὼν λαβέ

                      1978 XS1100E
                      K&N Filter
                      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                      OEM Exhaust
                      ATK Fork Brace
                      LED Dash lights
                      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                      Green Monster Coils
                      SS Brake Lines
                      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                      In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                      Theodore Roosevelt

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                      • #71
                        So that'll be a cause of the hovering?
                        79F
                        "Excelsior"
                        Honda gl1100 handlebar
                        Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                        OE headers,Jardine slipons
                        Hid headlight 6000k
                        Stock jets
                        Shinko 712 F & R
                        Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                        TC fuse block
                        K&n filter with oe airbox
                        Raptor 660 Acct

                        Comment


                        • #72
                          Originally posted by sparkfly88 View Post
                          So that'll be a cause of the hovering?
                          Could be...
                          Nathan
                          KD9ARL

                          μολὼν λαβέ

                          1978 XS1100E
                          K&N Filter
                          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                          OEM Exhaust
                          ATK Fork Brace
                          LED Dash lights
                          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                          Green Monster Coils
                          SS Brake Lines
                          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                          Theodore Roosevelt

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                          • #73
                            When you throttle up and the idle hangs at higher RPM you are to lean.
                            I agree with Nate that you should try the pilot screws out a bit. I have carbs that are turned out as much as 5 turns and they work well. It is a matter of what the bike wants and not what the opening settings are.
                            If you read up a bit there is a recent thread about synching and then setting the pilots with the carbtune and then doing the synch all over again.
                            You synch the carbs and then set the idle by vacuum to the highest reading on each carb. Note you do not set them equal but to the highest on each cylinder. Then do a synch to balance the carbs. Well at least that is my understanding of the procedure. I have not yet tried this but it sounds good.
                            Rooster is trying that very method tonight with his carbs so maybe he will chime in as to how well it works. I use the colortune and then set it with plug color but this may well be a better method. YMMV
                            2-79 XS1100 SF
                            2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                            80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                            Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                            • #74
                              That makes sense. Better the burn the more oxygen that's pulled in. Thus the reading would be higher.

                              I'll experiment with that tomorrow.

                              I was unaware that the pilot screws could move to that much to adjust, I'll fidget more for sure.

                              Thanks guys!
                              79F
                              "Excelsior"
                              Honda gl1100 handlebar
                              Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                              OE headers,Jardine slipons
                              Hid headlight 6000k
                              Stock jets
                              Shinko 712 F & R
                              Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                              TC fuse block
                              K&n filter with oe airbox
                              Raptor 660 Acct

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                              • #75
                                I tried adjusting the needles, and no change happened that was noticeable. It still revs high, and still hovers at RPM ranges...

                                I have the feeling the carbs are just running insane lean due to those aftermarket floats....which would explain the giant jets that had installed in it...


                                tomorrow I get paid, I'll order tires and the floats.
                                79F
                                "Excelsior"
                                Honda gl1100 handlebar
                                Vetter IV fairing with speaker system
                                OE headers,Jardine slipons
                                Hid headlight 6000k
                                Stock jets
                                Shinko 712 F & R
                                Oe hardbags and luggage rack
                                TC fuse block
                                K&n filter with oe airbox
                                Raptor 660 Acct

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