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  • cajun31
    Moderator
    • Oct 2003
    • 1799
    • Brandon, MS

    #16
    The only time I ever saw mine go up to 15 plus is when my voltage regulator was bad. I honestly can't remember what my tach was doing though. I replaced the voltage regulator and everything went back to normal.
    2 - 80 LGs bought one new
    81 LH
    02 FXSTB Nighttrain
    22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
    Jim

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    • bikerphil
      Master of XSology
      • Jan 2008
      • 8643
      • South Flori-DUH

      #17
      Well Jonny, it looks like either obtain another tach and try it, or continue going through the wiring, cleaning all related connectors. At this point it could be either or maybe even something else. Operating on a tamper proof tach might not be for you. It's an extremely finicky task.
      Last edited by bikerphil; 12-25-2024, 12:15 AM.
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      • motoman
        Master of XSology
        • Aug 2005
        • 8413
        • Grand Junction, Colorado

        #18
        Originally posted by LAB3
        15 sounds a bit too high, are you running a lithium battery? I'd be leery of anything higher than about 14.4 with a lead-acid battery.

        The tach itself is reading off one of the stator windings which would be an AC voltage somewhere in the 50v+ range.
        Actually LAB3, A lead acid wet cell battery on a 12V system, the regulated voltage with system running and working correctly, regulated voltage correctly should show to be 13.8-14.2volts. That comes from having 50+yrs. experience diagnosing 12v d.c. elecrical systems in the automotive world. That may also be of help to many others here.
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        • motoman
          Master of XSology
          • Aug 2005
          • 8413
          • Grand Junction, Colorado

          #19
          LAB3, no offense intended by my previous post, just factual knowledge.
          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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          • LAB3
            XSive Maximus
            • May 2022
            • 683
            • Traveling the U.S. with no permanent address

            #20
            Originally posted by motoman
            LAB3, no offense intended by my previous post, just factual knowledge.
            None taken. After living over 20 years with an off grid power system running 12v lead acid batteries I have a good bit of charging system experience myself. Anything over 14.2 would be suspect in that scenario although I've seen people bump that set point up a bit to 14.4 with AGM.
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            • JonnyO
              XStremely XSive
              • Oct 2020
              • 229
              • Sun City West, AZ

              #21
              Originally posted by LAB3
              15 sounds a bit too high, are you running a lithium battery? I'd be leery of anything higher than about 14.4 with a lead-acid battery.

              The tach itself is reading off one of the stator windings which would be an AC voltage somewhere in the 50v+ range.
              I don't believe so. Just an Interstate. I don't think they list a lithium for an XS. I've had it for a couple of years.

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              • JonnyO
                XStremely XSive
                • Oct 2020
                • 229
                • Sun City West, AZ

                #22
                Maybe the trickle charger has eventually done something not good? Battery shows 13.18 after unplugging charger and revs up to 14.81 on choke.

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                • cajun31
                  Moderator
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1799
                  • Brandon, MS

                  #23
                  Originally posted by JonnyO
                  Maybe the trickle charger has eventually done something not good? Battery shows 13.18 after unplugging charger and revs up to 14.81 on choke.
                  That sounds normal. There are six cells in a battery. Each cell carries about 2.2 volts. Doing the math that comes to 13.2 volts. That is approximately what you will have on a fully charged battery. It only drops after trying to crank the motor. 14.81 is also good which shows that the alternator and the voltage regulator/rectifier are doing there job. When you stated 15ish that indicated exceeding 14ish which is not good. Back to checking your settings on what Phil said to check on your tachometer problems.
                  2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                  81 LH
                  02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                  22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                  Jim

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                  • JonnyO
                    XStremely XSive
                    • Oct 2020
                    • 229
                    • Sun City West, AZ

                    #24
                    Originally posted by cajun31

                    That sounds normal. There are six cells in a battery. Each cell carries about 2.2 volts. Doing the math that comes to 13.2 volts. That is approximately what you will have on a fully charged battery. It only drops after trying to crank the motor. 14.81 is also good which shows that the alternator and the voltage regulator/rectifier are doing there job. When you stated 15ish that indicated exceeding 14ish which is not good. Back to checking your settings on what Phil said to check on your tachometer problems.
                    Aye aye. At this point I'm leaning towards buying a good tach from a member-just to rule it out.

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                    • DEEBS11
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Feb 2023
                      • 1427
                      • Connecticut

                      #25
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                      • JonnyO
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Oct 2020
                        • 229
                        • Sun City West, AZ

                        #26
                        Originally posted by DEEBS11
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                        Hmm? I see a hieroglyphic drawing. From inside the tomb of Keops?
                        But seriously I've no practical knowledge of this " stuff ". I'm supposing that the W, B, BR are representative of White Black and Brown wires. 3 Ws. Does that represent the plug under the fuse box? I'm going to Lowes to get some circuit cleaner to try and clean out as the one post said cleaning the two plugs with those W and Br and G color wires under the fuse box solved his tach issue.
                        Just a shot in the dark.

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                        • cajun31
                          Moderator
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1799
                          • Brandon, MS

                          #27
                          Here is a wiring diagram for your bike in color. 80sg_81sh_wire.pdf
                          2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                          81 LH
                          02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                          22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                          Jim

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                          • JonnyO
                            XStremely XSive
                            • Oct 2020
                            • 229
                            • Sun City West, AZ

                            #28
                            Originally posted by cajun31
                            Here is a wiring diagram for your bike in color. 80sg_81sh_wire.pdf
                            Great. Colored hieroglyphics. JK
                            ANYWAY I used the contact cleaner on the two connections suggested in the maintenance post by XS11 from 2002. Nope. Didn't work. I suppose I'll now have to try to figure out how to follow his instructions on what voltage should be
                            on each wire. Rats.
                            I did check the battery off the trickle charger last night- 12.89 now so I guess the battery is still good.

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                            • DEEBS11
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Feb 2023
                              • 1427
                              • Connecticut

                              #29
                              Here is a better explanation of the diagram.
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                              • DEEBS11
                                XS-XJ Guru
                                • Feb 2023
                                • 1427
                                • Connecticut

                                #30
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