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  • Well, Another I told you so and you heard it here first. The Government is deploying the Army to be used against us because of the stolen elections will bring rioting this time. full story quoted here:


    http://www.pyrabang.com/contentedito.../?c=173&a=8530

    ACLU Demands Information on U.S. Military Domestic Operations

    By Tom Burghardt

    Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:30:00

    (The Intelligence Daily) -- On Tuesday, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request demanding information from the government on U.S. Northern Command's (NORTHCOM) deployment of the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Combat Brigade Team (BCT) on U.S. soil for "civil unrest" and "crowd control" duties.

    Last month, Army Times published a piece detailing how the 1st BCT spent "35 of the last 60 months in Iraq." The 1st BCT--also known as the "Raiders"--carried out house-to-house raids and engaged in close-quarters combat in the city of Ramadi to suppress Iraqi resistance to U.S. occupation, according to a report on the World Socialist Website.

    Readers will recall my October 11 piece, "Militarizing the Homeland:" NORTHCOM's Joint Task Force-Civil Support," that described NORTHCOM's Vibrant Response exercise at Fort Stewart, Georgia.

    In tandem with the elite 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade, the 1st BCT participated in mock drills designed to "coordinate with local governments and interagency organizations such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Federal Emergency Management Agency," U.S. Northern Command News reported.

    The Pentagon revealed that 1st BCT is a key component of NORTHCOM's Joint Task Force-Civil Support (JTF-CS), designed to "execute both homeland defense and civil support missions." As I pointed out in a piece earlier this month, current Army doctrine is heavily-weighted towards contingency planning for "civil disturbances."

    Indeed, Army Times reported that the 1st BCT would be kitted out with "the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded." The publication reported, "the package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets." But after spilling the proverbial beans, Army Times retracted that portion of their report.

    NORTHCOM now claims that a "nonlethal" weapons package was intended only for use in Iraq and not in the heimat. In the opinion of this writer, this is nothing more than a feeble Pentagon move to spin a story that has garnered much unfavorable publicity since it first appeared.

    Rules for domestic military operations, including as an armed force to suppress "civil disturbances," are clearly spelled out in Department of Defense Directive 3025.12 (DoD 3025.12), "Military Assistance for Civil Disturbances" (MACDIS). Army doctrine and rules of engagement for civil disturbance and "riot control" planning have long recommended equipping troops with "non-lethal weapons" (NLWs) for what the Pentagon euphemistically calls "operations other than war."

    As researcher and activist Frank Morales reported in Police State America, the Center for Army Lessons Learned (CALL), located at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, "reacting to a growing sense of urgency to field weaponry in step with the requirements of globalization, issued a primer on the subject, entitled, Civil Disturbances: Incorporating Non-Lethal Technology, Tactics, Techniques and Procedures," in 2000. Why is the Pentagon now so hesitant to come clean on plans for using NLWs in the "homeland"?

    Since the late 1960s, the military has gradually expanded its brief to include domestic law enforcement, drug interdiction and border security, in clear violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. The 1878 law specifically bars the use of the military in domestic policing. However the trend towards militarizing the inherently civilian nature of locally controlled law enforcement has accelerated since the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, most infamously with the October 2002 creation of NORTHCOM itself.

    U.S. Northern Command's original mandate "to provide command and control of Department of Defense (DoD) homeland defense efforts and to coordinate defense support of civil authorities," has since expanded with the May 2007 National Security Presidential Directive 51, Homeland Security Presidential Directive 20 (NSPD 51/HSPD 20).

    Indeed, as previously reported, NSPD 51/HSPD 20's top secret Continuity of Government annexes have been refused to members of Congress; a clear move by the White House to inhibit the legislative branch from performing its lawful oversight functions. What then, is the Bush administration hiding from Congress and the American people?

    The ACLU stakes out the legal ground on the erosion of Posse Comitatus and states,

    Civilian authorities, not the military, have historically controlled and directed the internal affairs of the United States. This rule traces its origins to the nation's founding and has been reaffirmed in landmark statutes including the Posse Comitatus Act, which helps preserve the foundational principles of our Constitution and democracy. ("ACLU Demands Information on Military Deployment within U.S. Borders," Press Release, October 21, 2008)

    Jonathan Hafetz, a staff attorney with the ACLU National Security Project inquires: "What is the unit's mission? What functions will it perform? And why was it necessary to deploy the unit rather than rely on civilian agencies and personnel and the National Guard? Given the magnitude of the issues at stake, it is imperative that the American people know the truth about this new and unprecedented intrusion of the military in domestic affairs."

    Indeed, senior NORTHCOM commanders have repeatedly dodged these questions. During an emergency, they claim JTF-CS "supports" the "Primary Federal Agency [PFA] ... designated to coordinate the government's response to a disaster or emergency situation." But "support" to a civilian agency is not the same as playing a subordinate role to civilian leadership. This is stated unambiguously by NORTHCOM: "Although the JTF-CS supports the PFA throughout a CBRNE [chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and high-yield explosive] consequence management operation, the unit operates within a clear Department of Defense chain of command."

    In other words, the "chain of command" followed by JTF-CS begins and ends with the Executive Branch and the President in his role as leader of the "unitary executive branch" and Commander-in-Chief. As former FBI whistleblower and senior ACLU national policy counsel Mike German states, "This is a radical departure from separation of civilian law enforcement and military authority, and could, quite possibly, represent a violation of law."

    To facilitate an open and public assessment of recent "homeland" military deployments, the ACLU demanded that the Departments of Justice, Homeland Security and Defense "immediately make public all legal opinions, executive orders, presidential directives, memos, policy guidance, and other documents that authorize the deployment of military troops for domestic purposes."

    Such a demand arises precisely because of the unprecedented expansion of the U.S. national security-surveillance complex since the 9/11 attacks. As the civil liberties' group pointedly reminds us,

    [T]he Department of Defense has dramatically expanded its role in domestic law enforcement and intelligence operations, including the National Security Agency's warrantless wiretapping programs, the Department of Homeland Security's use of military spy satellites, and the participation of military personnel in state and local intelligence fusion centers. The ACLU has repeatedly expressed concern about these incremental encroachments of the military into domestic affairs, and the assignment of active duty troops to Northern Command only heightens these concerns.

    Unfortunately, some, if not most members of Congress, rather than defending the rights of the American people would rather re-write Posse Comitatus to reflect the needs of an "Executive Branch gone wild." As David Swanson reported on AfterDowningStreet.org, Senator John Warner wrote a constituent who had expressed alarm over the 1st BCT's attachment to NORTHCOM. Swanson commented,

    This, like other changes imposed by President Bush, of course violates the Posse Comitatus Act. It also served to strengthen the threats of martial law that Congressman Brad Sherman reported the White House making to Congress members in order to win their support for the $780 billion give-away to Wall Street. (David Swanson, "Sen. Warner Supports Domestic Use of Military, AfterDowningStreet.org, October 21, 2008)

    Claiming he is "deeply concerned that the Department of Defense and the President may not have authority to use active duty personnel in the most effective manner," Warner writes,

    I believe we must review the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act and similar provisions that limit the role of the active duty military to ensure that every available asset is properly employed in any type of future emergency situation. Title 18, Section 1385 of the U.S. Code, commonly referred to as the Posse Comitatus Act, prevents the armed forces from becoming involved in law enforcement activities for which, in most cases, they are not specifically trained or equipped. Posse Comitatus is largely rooted in historical tradition that prohibits military involvement in civilian affairs.

    To be clear, I do not believe that U.S. law pertaining to this matter needs to be entirely rewritten. I do, however, think it is necessary that we review the regulations governing use of military personnel in domestic operations in order to better understand how all of our military assets can best assist during emergency situations.

    Attentive readers will recall that "The John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007," included a section that permitted the President to deploy the armed forces to "restore public order" or to "suppress any insurrection." As Democracy Now's Amy Goodman reported earlier this month, "while a later bill repealed this, President Bush attached a signing statement that he did not feel bound by the repeal."

    The ACLU's concerns are fully warranted and demand an impartial evaluation of the dangerous implications for democracy, particularly in light of the current capitalist economic crisis. As the historic meltdown deepens, social tensions--and struggles--will inevitably intensify. As researcher and analyst Michel Chossudovsky wrote,

    Civil unrest resulting from the financial meltdown is a distinct possibility, given the broad impacts of financial collapse on lifelong savings, pension funds, homeownership, etc.

    The timing of this planned militarization is crucial: how will it affect the presidential elections scheduled for Tuesday November 4.

    The brigade in its domestic homeland activities will be designated as the Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF).

    What "Consequences" are being envisaged? ("Pre-election Militarization of the North American Homeland. US Combat Troops in Iraq repatriated to 'help with civil unrest'," Global Research, September 26, 2008)

    While the state justifies this deployment as a response to "terrorist threats," what other scenarios are being contemplated?

    With daily reports of voter suppression drives by the Republican Party in multiple "battleground" states hitting the corporate media, and a major exposé of these antidemocratic operations by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast published in Rolling Stone, Washington's plans for the use of military force at home is a dagger aimed directly at the American people--and what remains of a democratic republic--by a thuggish and bankrupt ruling elite.

    Tom Burghardt is a researcher and activist based in the San Francisco Bay Area. In addition to publishing in Covert Action Quarterly and Global Research, an independent research and media group of writers, scholars, journalists and activists based in Montreal, his articles can be read on Dissident Voice and The Intelligence Daily. He is the editor of Police State America: U.S. Military "Civil Disturbance" Planning, distributed by AK Press.

    http://www.pyrabang.com/contentedito.../?c=173&a=8530
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    • Our government is out to get us!!!!!



      Don
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      1980 Yamaha XS1100 SG
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      • ROFLMAO! Wow can I join the "tinfoil club" too? That's one cool cat!
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        • In politics, winning is everything! Don't matter how you play the game...if you think that your vote counts at all these days you must also believe we are in Iraq defending our American Freedom! McCain says he's going to veto all pork barrel spending? Yet giving a blank check to defense spending? Who in their right mind can't see the writing on the wall???
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          • Very cool, DJinNH. The cat makes it.

            Patrick
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            • I feel that we shouldn't be trapped into the "better of two evils" dilema. If everyone stopped thinking that the only two parties out there to vote for were the Republicans and the Democrats and looked into who else was out there. America would be a better place.

              However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.


              GEORGE WASHINGTON, Farewell Address, Sep. 17, 1796

              I am slowly starting to go out and try to make people look into who they are voting for and if they don't agree. Spend 10 min online looking at candidates. I spent a very short amount of time and found someone I actually agree with. He is a third party, and because of the closed mind thinking of most of the country he will never be elected, but if I can get 10 people to think outside of the box every year, and those 10 people get 10 more people each year, by the time I die, maybe America will be out of this never ending Majority that these two parties have on our government.
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              • Originally posted by DJinNH View Post
                Our government is out to get us!!!!!



                Don

                For more info on this please click here:


                http://gprime.net/flash.php/911penta...onspiracy#Main
                "We are often so caught up in our destination that we forget to appreciate the journey." "

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                • I woke up to my wallet screaming, THE DEMS ARE IN! Are money troubles are over, the masters of re-distributing wealth will fix everything, on the backs of the middle class.

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                  • DITTO
                    To bad us poverty level white people putting themselves through college won't see any of the "wealth". Oh but if I were black!!
                    79 F full cruiser, stainless brake lines, spade fuses, Accel coils, modded air box w/larger velocity stacks, 750 FD.
                    79 SF parts bike.

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                    • Race has nothing to do with it, and I would thank you to leave race out of discussions here. You either have to be very poor or very rich to get anything handed to you by our government. And we in the middle are the ones who foot the bill. The republicans do it, too, the democrats are just better at it.

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                      • How do we ask a GI overseas to be the last one to die based on lies and for a mistake?

                        Bring our troops home now. Americans have spoken. God has shined down on us.

                        Nothing but good can come out of talking with our so called enemies.

                        I just hope BU$H doesn't launch another 9/11 on us before January.

                        http://www.911sharethetruth.com/
                        "We are often so caught up in our destination that we forget to appreciate the journey." "

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                        • "How do we ask a GI overseas to be the last one to die based on lies and for a mistake?"

                          Why don't you actually ask the GI's instead of thinking for them. An overwhelming majority of them think that they are doing the right thing and think it would be a disaster if we pulled out now. Talk to the people that know about it firsthand before basing your decisions.


                          "Bring our troops home now. Americans have spoken. God has shined down on us."

                          God has spoken.. by giving us a president that says the U.S. is no longer a christian nation?? Or is it "The God of your choice" that you are meaning?


                          "Nothing but good can come out of talking with our so called enemies."

                          Because you can reason so well with people that chant "Death to all that are not Muslim!"


                          "I just hope BU$H doesn't launch another 9/11 on us before January."


                          I guess there is always going to be conspiracy theorists, and no amount of ACTUAL proof or common sense will convince them otherwise that everybody is not "Out to get them". We didn't land on the moon, Elvis is still alive, and little green men fly millions of light years JUST to do anal probes on us.


                          Tod
                          Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                          You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                          Current bikes:
                          '06 Suzuki DR650
                          *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                          '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                          '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                          '81 XS1100 Special
                          '81 YZ250
                          '80 XS850 Special
                          '80 XR100
                          *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                          • Originally posted by trbig View Post
                            "How do we ask a GI overseas to be the last one to die based on lies and for a mistake?"

                            Why don't you actually ask the GI's instead of thinking for them. An overwhelming majority of them think that they are doing the right thing and think it would be a disaster if we pulled out now. Talk to the people that know about it firsthand before basing your decisions.
                            soooooo... you've actually talked with them?
                            yeah... I think a lot of military personnel do believe they are doing what's right... but I think there are a lot who are doing it because it's their job... What are they going to do? go to prison for treason or for going AWOL?

                            "Bring our troops home now. Americans have spoken. God has shined down on us."

                            God has spoken.. by giving us a president that says the U.S. is no longer a christian nation?? Or is it "The God of your choice" that you are meaning?
                            Are we really a Christian nation? or simply a nation built on Christian beliefs... when the only thing that comes close to us being anything close to Christian is our undying ability to profess we are Christian? without actually acting Christian... or spiritual... or religious...

                            "Nothing but good can come out of talking with our so called enemies."

                            Because you can reason so well with people that chant "Death to all that are not Muslim!"
                            Okay... let's just go bomb them instead... oh wait... BTDT...


                            and little green men fly millions of light years JUST to do anal probes on us.
                            Tod
                            Nope... just you Tod...
                            81 SH Something Special
                            81 frame, 80 tank and side covers, 79 tail light and carbs, 78 engine, 750 final drive mod, Geezer rec/reg, 140 mains, LH wheels


                            79 SF MEAUQABEAUXS
                            81SH Nor'eas tah (Old Red)
                            80 LG Black Magic
                            78 E Standard Practice


                            James 3:17

                            If I can make at least one person smile, or pee their pants a little, or maybe spit out their drink; then my day is not wasted.

                            “Alis Volat Propriis”

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                            • "soooooo... you've actually talked with them?"

                              Lots and lots of them. Same thing as Vietnam.. they want to stay and finish, but are getting their hands tied by policy makers thinking for them.

                              "I think a lot of military personnel do believe they are doing what's right... but I think there are a lot who are doing it because it's their job... What are they going to do? go to prison for treason or for going AWOL?"

                              We have been over there long enough, that the majority of the people on the ground doing the grunt work have VOLUNTEERED to join while we have been there. So that makes you think they're just doing they're job because they HAVE to?

                              "without actually acting Christian... or spiritual... or religious..."

                              And who's fault is that? When you can't pray or even bring a bible to school, or teach a belief that we actually may NOT have come from apes even though they still can't DISPROVE it? I think christians founded this country on christian values, but if a president went on the TV today and said something to the effect of "I am a Christian, and I believe God will help us in these times.", you'd offend to many outspoken athiests. SOmeone had the "Bright" idea that the church and state should be seperate.. but that's definately not something from our constitution.

                              "Okay... let's just go bomb them instead.."

                              It isn't US that did the bombing first. So, you're walking down the street and someone smaller than you sucker punches you and says they are going to kill you and laughs at you bleeding. I guess you want to step back and say, "Gee.. I can see you have a lot of anger. Let's sit down and talk about this for a while..."


                              And... my anal integrety is intact, thank you! lol.

                              Tod
                              Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                              You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                              Current bikes:
                              '06 Suzuki DR650
                              *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                              '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                              '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                              '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                              '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                              '81 XS1100 Special
                              '81 YZ250
                              '80 XS850 Special
                              '80 XR100
                              *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                              • Originally posted by trbig View Post
                                "soooooo... you've actually talked with them?"

                                Lots and lots of them. Same thing as Vietnam.. they want to stay and finish, but are getting their hands tied by policy makers thinking for them.
                                Finish what? Exactly what is the end to this?
                                Funny... I've talked to a lot of people who have been over there too... and a lot of them didn't think it was the right thing to do... So I guess it's all in who you talk to... and where they've been...

                                We have been over there long enough, that the majority of the people on the ground doing the grunt work have VOLUNTEERED to join while we have been there. So that makes you think they're just doing they're job because they HAVE to?
                                Desperation? it isn't like there are a plethora of jobs left here...

                                "without actually acting Christian... or spiritual... or religious..."

                                And who's fault is that? When you can't pray or even bring a bible to school, or teach a belief that we actually may NOT have come from apes even though they still can't DISPROVE it? I think christians founded this country on christian values, but if a president went on the TV today and said something to the effect of "I am a Christian, and I believe God will help us in these times.", you'd offend to many outspoken athiests. SOmeone had the "Bright" idea that the church and state should be seperate.. but that's definately not something from our constitution.
                                I TOTALLY agree with you here...

                                "Okay... let's just go bomb them instead.."

                                It isn't US that did the bombing first. So, you're walking down the street and someone smaller than you sucker punches you and says they are going to kill you and laughs at you bleeding. I guess you want to step back and say, "Gee.. I can see you have a lot of anger. Let's sit down and talk about this for a while..."
                                No... but if Joe over there is the one who sucker punched me... I'd go after Joe... not Jimmy...

                                And... my anal integrety is intact, thank you! lol.

                                Tod
                                LMAO
                                Oh man! That one is SOOOOOO tempting


                                81 SH Something Special
                                81 frame, 80 tank and side covers, 79 tail light and carbs, 78 engine, 750 final drive mod, Geezer rec/reg, 140 mains, LH wheels


                                79 SF MEAUQABEAUXS
                                81SH Nor'eas tah (Old Red)
                                80 LG Black Magic
                                78 E Standard Practice


                                James 3:17

                                If I can make at least one person smile, or pee their pants a little, or maybe spit out their drink; then my day is not wasted.

                                “Alis Volat Propriis”

                                Yamaha XS 1100 Classic
                                For those on FB

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