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  • IanDMacDonald
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Oct 2010
    • 3993
    • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

    #76
    Got it running like a champ. Put it all back together (airbox brackets completed). However, I cannot get ahead of a bad oil leak. I cannot ascertain where it's coming from, other than the head gasket. I may need to pull it all back apart and use some sealant between the head gasket and the head.
    1979 XS1100F
    2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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    • jetmechmarty
      Master of XSology
      • Nov 2003
      • 8067
      • Coldwater, Mississippi

      #77
      What are you running for a cam chain tensioner? I’m running one from a 550 Vision. I had to slot the top mount hole for it to fit. It created an opening into the engine and it leaked. It took a very long time for me to figure that out. I thought it might be the head gasket.
      Marty (in Mississippi)
      XS1100SG
      XS650SK
      XS650SH
      XS650G
      XS6502F
      XS650E

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      • IanDMacDonald
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Oct 2010
        • 3993
        • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

        #78
        Originally posted by jetmechmarty
        What are you running for a cam chain tensioner? I’m running one from a 550 Vision. I had to slot the top mount hole for it to fit. It created an opening into the engine and it leaked. It took a very long time for me to figure that out. I thought it might be the head gasket.
        It's not a V-Max tensioner, but some other older Yamaha model. I saw one of my older posts where I mentioned it. I have the ACCT area RTV'd to death, so I don't think it's from there. I really do think it's from the head gasket. It infurtiates me, as I thought I was done.
        1979 XS1100F
        2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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        • Bonz
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Apr 2008
          • 3321
          • Palmer Lake, Colorado

          #79
          The fact it's running like a champ is awesome. That's a blessing to count.

          Years ago I put a new head on the ZRX 1200. I forgot the dowel pins connecting the head to the block. Tightened everything down, but I could see something wasn't right. That head wanted to Slither around too much when I was tightening down the bolts. Yeah, that was a night of frustration yet satisfaction when I did it right lol.
          Howard

          2001 ZRX 1200
          1982 Seca 750
          1983 Nighthawk 550

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          • Radioguylogs
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Nov 2012
            • 2147
            • Presque Isle, MI

            #80
            Originally posted by IanDMacDonald

            It's not a V-Max tensioner, but some other older Yamaha model. I saw one of my older posts where I mentioned it. I have the ACCT area RTV'd to death, so I don't think it's from there. I really do think it's from the head gasket. It infurtiates me, as I thought I was done.
            Perhaps a V-Star 650?
            -Mike
            _________
            '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
            '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
            '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
            '79 XS750SF 17k miles
            '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
            '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
            '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

            Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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            • IanDMacDonald
              XS-XJ Super Guru
              • Oct 2010
              • 3993
              • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

              #81
              Originally posted by Radioguylogs

              Perhaps a V-Star 650?
              Yes, sir. I found the post. V-Star 650. Nice guess!
              1979 XS1100F
              2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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              • IanDMacDonald
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Oct 2010
                • 3993
                • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

                #82
                I'm going to clean it off real quick, dust it with flour, and take it around and see if I can find the leak.
                1979 XS1100F
                2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                • Radioguylogs
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 2147
                  • Presque Isle, MI

                  #83
                  Originally posted by IanDMacDonald

                  Yes, sir. I found the post. V-Star 650. Nice guess!
                  It's in your footer/signature.
                  -Mike
                  _________
                  '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                  '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                  '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                  '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                  '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                  '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                  '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                  Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                  • IanDMacDonald
                    XS-XJ Super Guru
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 3993
                    • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

                    #84
                    Welp, I dusted it with AP flour and got it hot. It seems to be from the back of the head, near the rear head bolt. The bolt is tight, so I know it's not that. Odds are, I'll need to pull the head.

                    Should I pursue a leakdown test to confirm it's the head gasket? I can spray the cylinder head with soapy water? But, i presume doing this on a cold engine may not reveal itself?
                    1979 XS1100F
                    2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                    • IanDMacDonald
                      XS-XJ Super Guru
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3993
                      • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

                      #85
                      I ended up pulling the head and ran a bead of Permatex The Right Stuff on the underside and on top of the head gasket. I DID find that the top banjo bolt for the oil supply line was loose and likely the source of the oil leak, but I was not willing to take a chance.

                      Head is back on, and I'll finish up tonight after class to see if the oil leak is fixed.

                      Pulling the plugs, I saw that 3 of the 4 were very lean (white plugs). I'll try a 3/4 turn out on the idle mixture screws to see if that'll enrichen them.
                      1979 XS1100F
                      2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                      • Bonz
                        XS-XJ Super Guru
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 3321
                        • Palmer Lake, Colorado

                        #86
                        When they are really lean like that, it's not a bad thing to go up one main jet size on those cylinders or up one size on the pilot Jets on those cylinders. If you're doing mostly cruising around pilot jets make that difference in plug color in my experience.

                        Made a change on the ZRX last night before a ride up to Cripple Creek for a Veterans appreciation motorcycle event today.

                        38 Pilots even with 3.0 needle clip position, light throttle cruise with the air fuel ratio gauge was in the high 13:1 to high 14:1 consistently and would blip to the lower 15's. No bueno for a carbureted bike in my opinion.

                        Went to 40's on the pilots, light throttle cruise AFR was back in the low - high 13's mostly, with a few times in the 14s but not passed stoichiometric of 14.7. Never saw 15's. Along with that I went a half position leaner on the clip position. That shows, to me anyway, the pilot jets are what are keeping those plugs looking lean because the air fuel ratio at cruising richened up even when I made the needle position leaner.



                        Howard

                        2001 ZRX 1200
                        1982 Seca 750
                        1983 Nighthawk 550

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                        • IanDMacDonald
                          XS-XJ Super Guru
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 3993
                          • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

                          #87
                          Yeah, I think I'm running 40's on the pilot jets right now. I think I need to go up.
                          1979 XS1100F
                          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                          • IanDMacDonald
                            XS-XJ Super Guru
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 3993
                            • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

                            #88
                            I just ordered some 142's & 145's from MIke's, as I think I'm running 140's at the moment. I might go up in the pilots as well.
                            1979 XS1100F
                            2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                            • Bonz
                              XS-XJ Super Guru
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 3321
                              • Palmer Lake, Colorado

                              #89
                              If you run into a hard time finding the 42's, I have a set of four that'll work if going up on the mains doesn't do it.

                              Howard

                              2001 ZRX 1200
                              1982 Seca 750
                              1983 Nighthawk 550

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