The day the tensioner died ( lucky way)

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  • speedlimit85
    XStremely XSive
    • Jan 2017
    • 420
    • Gainesville, Fl.

    #1

    The day the tensioner died ( lucky way)

    Was chain adjusting tightening with the little torque when the bolt went slack and would not get tight.

    Lucky time to fail with the bike on center stand and motor turned to the C-mark. Plus I already have v-max ACT with bolts and gasket.

    I put it on, turned the motor by hand then started. I guess I'm part of the modification club now.
    80 G
  • DiverRay
    Moderator
    • Nov 2004
    • 7607
    • Star, IDAHO

    #2
    And you know why we are all going that way! The adjuster is one of the few "oops" things Yamaha did.
    Ray Matteis
    KE6NHG
    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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    • cajun31
      Moderator
      • Oct 2003
      • 1796
      • Brandon, MS

      #3
      Originally posted by speedlimit85
      Was chain adjusting tightening with the little torque when the bolt went slack and would not get tight.

      Lucky time to fail with the bike on center stand and motor turned to the C-mark. Plus I already have v-max ACT with bolts and gasket.

      I put it on, turned the motor by hand then started. I guess I'm part of the modification club now.
      Took me a long time to make this change on all of mine. I finally decided it was much easier to go this route rather then having to remember to mess with the Oem all the time. I don't put many miles on these bikes so I am not worried about premature cam chain failure. The big debate when this mod was first introduced was about how much more tension the Auto tensioners put on the chain versus the oem. If I was a high miler I might have thought twice but being that these bike of mine don't get ridden that much that was a non factor for me. One of our members actually modified the auto tensioner to limit the tensioner travel to not exceed that of the OEM. The Vmax do travel a slight bit further when fully extended.
      2 - 80 LGs bought one new
      81 LH
      02 FXSTB Nighttrain
      22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
      Jim

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      • bikerphil
        Master of XSology
        • Jan 2008
        • 8637
        • South Flori-DUH

        #4
        FWIW, I have an engine with the original cam chain and the ACCT installed. It has over 150K on it, no issues yet, maybe a little power drop due to stretching.
        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

        ☮

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        • RanMan
          XSive
          • Apr 2006
          • 22
          • Glen Burnie, MD

          #5
          I'm about to install the V-Max tensioner on my XS1100SG. I'm a bit concerned about the increased pressure that the V-Max part has. Just wondering if anyone has experimented with trimming the spring slightly to relieve some of the pressure. Any thoughts? Thanks
          Love Affair since 1983 with my 1980 XS1100 Special, Blackie

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          • oldyam80sg
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Apr 2007
            • 2044
            • Hackettstown , New Jersey

            #6
            I installed a tensioner froma Venture/ Ventura? I got on E bay.
            1980 XS1100 SG
            Inline fuel filters
            New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
            160 mph speedometer mod
            Kerker Exhaust
            xschop K & N air filter setup
            Dynojet Recalibration kit
            1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
            1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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            • RanMan
              XSive
              • Apr 2006
              • 22
              • Glen Burnie, MD

              #7
              oldyam80sg Do you know if the tension is different from the V-Max?
              Love Affair since 1983 with my 1980 XS1100 Special, Blackie

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              • cajun31
                Moderator
                • Oct 2003
                • 1796
                • Brandon, MS

                #8
                Originally posted by RanMan
                oldyam80sg Do you know if the tension is different from the V-Max?
                Automatic Cam Chain Tensioners - XS11.club Forums The Vmax and the Venturer have about the same tension. I went with the vmax tensioners because the bolt holes line up, whereas the venturer may need to be slightly filed to make them fit. On either you need to use your original bolts to mount our the ones that come with these tensioners needs to be cut down. Moving between the .com site versus .club it is a bit more difficult to search for old threads that still have viable pictures. I can't remember which member actually modified the vmax tensioner to make the travel the same distance as the oem tensioner. Overall this is one of the best mods you can do to your bike. Just make sure you follow the recommended sequence when installing it.
                2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                81 LH
                02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                Jim

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                • RanMan
                  XSive
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 22
                  • Glen Burnie, MD

                  #9
                  cajun31 thank you! Excellent info. I'll be sifting through this before I do the installation. I plan to omit the gasket and use Right Stuff since it works great for so many applications. I thought about using Yamabond but I know that RS has proven itself. Looks like I will be chasing down another tensioner from a Vision. I just don't feel really good about the spring strength of the V-Max tensioner. Thanks again
                  Last edited by RanMan; 04-04-2024, 09:42 AM.
                  Love Affair since 1983 with my 1980 XS1100 Special, Blackie

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                  • DEEBS11
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Feb 2023
                    • 1418
                    • Connecticut

                    #10

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                    • DEEBS11
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Feb 2023
                      • 1418
                      • Connecticut

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                      • DEEBS11
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 1418
                        • Connecticut

                        #12
                        Cutting a spring will make it stiffer. Not really what you want.

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                        • motoman
                          Master of XSology
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 8413
                          • Grand Junction, Colorado

                          #13
                          A self adjuster's spring tension is irrelavent to its function. The self adjuster has a notched index that opposing piece drops into when adjuster takes up any slack from spring tension in adjuster. Simple and bullet proof as far as self-adjusters function.
                          Last edited by motoman; 04-04-2024, 04:35 PM.
                          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                          • oldyam80sg
                            XS-XJ Guru
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 2044
                            • Hackettstown , New Jersey

                            #14
                            Just checked my E bay purchases last year-It was from a 1990 V Max.
                            Last edited by oldyam80sg; 04-04-2024, 06:37 PM.
                            1980 XS1100 SG
                            Inline fuel filters
                            New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                            160 mph speedometer mod
                            Kerker Exhaust
                            xschop K & N air filter setup
                            Dynojet Recalibration kit
                            1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                            1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                            • speedlimit85
                              XStremely XSive
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 420
                              • Gainesville, Fl.

                              #15
                              I think it's leaking. Could it be the copper washer?

                              From an '86 vmax...anyone know the size of the washer under the big bolt? 19 mm socket Could the oil return washers be the same?

                              Or what else it could be? It's not but a drop, but it should be dry.
                              Last edited by speedlimit85; 04-05-2024, 02:19 PM.
                              80 G

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