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  • #61
    Frank, if you're planning on doing much work on the carbs etc, I"d advise you to invest in a set of J.I.S (Japanese Industry Standard) screwdrivers so you don't ruin any more screw heads on the bike. It'll save a LOT of heartache in the future.
    79 SF Special W/ Stock all original motor @ 384,000klms
    Stock exhaust, stock airbox, XJ sump, 78E carbs, Xs1100RH seat, Bosch superhorns, 5/8ths front M/c, braided lines, sintered SBS pads, drilled discs, progressive springs, 8" 50w HID headlight 4300K, 2 x 50w HID spiral driving lights, KONI shocks, Spade fuse box
    *Touring mode - Plexistar 2 screen, Gearsack rack & bag & saddlebags, homebuilt towbar
    *"The Keg"- UC torana hubs, XS11 discs, Tokico 4 spot calipers

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Eveready1100 View Post
      I"d advise you to invest in a set of J.I.S (Japanese Industry Standard) screwdrivers so you don't ruin any more screw heads on the bike. It'll save a LOT of heartache in the future.
      highly recommend this
      80 SG
      81 SH in parts
      99 ST1100
      91 ST1100

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      • #63
        Thank you for this suggestion, and I agree. The proper tool for the job is very important.

        The screw heads were already mangled by previous owner, so I'm replacing the 4 screws on top and 4 screws on the float bowls (per carb.)
        1981H XS1100
        1981 BMW R100

        My photo/moto site: frankfoto.jimdo.com

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        • #64
          Yamaha 1981 SX1100

          $150 cost

          $50 winch to pull it up onto the trailer
          $20 cut key from internet
          $20 motor oil
          $20 gear oil and WD40
          $15 new screws for carbs
          1981H XS1100
          1981 BMW R100

          My photo/moto site: frankfoto.jimdo.com

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          • #65
            Originally posted by FranksBMW View Post
            Thank you for this suggestion, and I agree. The proper tool for the job is very important.

            The screw heads were already mangled by previous owner, so I'm replacing the 4 screws on top and 4 screws on the float bowls (per carb.)
            Hi Frank,
            Some have replaced the original JIS Screws with socket head cap screws using metric allen keys instead and eliminating the need for multiple tools in the kit.

            Phil
            1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
            1983 XJ 650 Maxim
            2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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            • #66
              Originally posted by MaximPhil View Post
              Hi Frank,
              Some have replaced the original JIS Screws with socket head cap screws using metric allen keys instead and eliminating the need for multiple tools in the kit.

              Phil
              Yup. Not a single fastener on my bike except the final and mid-drive plugs are original. All S/S SHCS on my bike.
              1979 XS1100F
              2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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              • #67
                Frank, if you're putting off getting a good gas tank that doesn't have holes in it because it's too expensive then tools and new fasteners are going to knock your budget through the roof. You are going to screw up some screws whatever you do but the screwdriver in the emergency toolkit has a JIS tip, use it when you can.

                If the screws are stubborn, leave off the plastic handle and put the screwdriver in the screw, then rap on the shank to loosen the screw. Try not to mushroom the shank. If the screw wallows out you can usually smack the screw on the head with a hammer to peen the cross back down enough to let you 'set' the screwdriver tip into it with the hammer, then unscrew it.

                Anyway, take care of what you need to get your project running with a polypropylene hot water bottle for a temporary fuel supply if that's what you have to do but be careful. When you're working with gasoline, take it outside to play and have a fire extinguisher nearby. If something pops, Mr. Hydrocarbon is not your friend and you don't want to burn down your bike/garage/house while you try to figure out how to put out a fuel fire.
                -- Scott
                _____

                2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                1979 XS1100F: parts
                2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                • #68
                  While I'm waiting for my key to arrive, what 2 colour wires do I jump on the wiring harness to ignition unit connecting block in order to activate the starter motor and energize the coils? Thanks!
                  1981H XS1100
                  1981 BMW R100

                  My photo/moto site: frankfoto.jimdo.com

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                  • #69
                    Hey Frank,

                    Okay, on the Ignition switch, the large solid red wire is the power from the MAIN FUSE/Battery, and the large brown wire feeds the fuseblock and the other circuits. The Red/White/yellow striped is just to power the Emergency flashers, and the blue is just for the parking lights when the switch is turned to Park....which nobody ever does...on purpose!

                    Aside from the seat fitment with different tanks, there are other differences. The specials use gravity controlled petcocks and a separate vac. controlled valve/Octopus, and they don't fit/mount onto standard tanks, and vise versa...the holes are spaced differently. The Standards use vac. controlled petcocks. The Standards use a float/fuel level sender, the specials only use a Thermister idiot light switch. The Standards also have a vent tube that runs from the gas cap recess area THRU the tank to the bottom/end of the tank to drain away rain water/fuel that might get spilled into the recess. These tubes can also RUST thru causing fuel leaks. The Specials have a raised/elevated gas cap so don't have/use the drain tube. And the Specials are smaller less capacity tanks than the standards overall.

                    T.C.
                    T. C. Gresham
                    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                    History shows again and again,
                    How nature points out the folly of men!

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                    • #70
                      Thank you, TC.
                      1981H XS1100
                      1981 BMW R100

                      My photo/moto site: frankfoto.jimdo.com

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                      • #71
                        So, it's sort of alive. I placed a jumper wire in the connection block and hooked up a battery. The lights on the instrument cluster came on. The starter motor responded to the start button and turned the engine over. I put a spark plug in the lead, grounded it on the engine, and I see a spark while the starter cranks over the engine. Getting there.
                        1981H XS1100
                        1981 BMW R100

                        My photo/moto site: frankfoto.jimdo.com

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                        • #72
                          Not having a gas tank at this preliminary stage, I used a syringe to inject gas into the 2 gas lines to the carbs to fill up the bowls, and I added a squirt of quick start fluid into the throats of each carb. The motor "caught" and almost started. There were definitely successful detonations in some cylinders.

                          I have to clean the carbs better now. There is probably another jet or needle that I haven't found. I'm not experienced with carb work. Is there an exploded view of parts in the carbs anywhere?
                          Last edited by FranksBMW; 03-01-2017, 01:44 PM.
                          1981H XS1100
                          1981 BMW R100

                          My photo/moto site: frankfoto.jimdo.com

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                          • #73
                            Here is a carb pictorial...

                            http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...light=Carb+101
                            2H7 (79) owned since '89
                            3H3 owned since '06

                            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                            • #74
                              Super, thank you!
                              1981H XS1100
                              1981 BMW R100

                              My photo/moto site: frankfoto.jimdo.com

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                              • #75
                                Carbs

                                If you want the bike to run right you will at least have to do a thorough carb clean. Be very careful pulling the float pins so you don't break the pivot stands. I just had to repair two broken ones on a project bike I just got. You will for sure have to clean the pilot jet, and it's pretty easy to get to. Find a good fitting sharp screwdriver to remove it so you don't strip it. You may need to grind down the screwdriver tip to get it in there. Next, you absolutely need to get the main emulsion tube out. It is the tube the slide needle goes into. I'll be you'll be very surprised how dirty it is. After you remove the main jet and the slides you can push the emulsion tube toward the carb top to remove it. I had to use a punch and drive them out. If you do that be aware there is a small brass pin in the carb body to orient the emulsion tube so use a tool of smaller diameter than the hole the tube is in to drive it out.

                                For sure get the floats to move freely and I've also looked into the float pin and seat and seen it pretty dirty so I used a Dremel tool with a small brush tip and aluminum polish to shine it up inside. Then a good clean out of course.

                                I just got two project bikes and the carburetors were disasters once I got in there. Both are now running well. Wouldn't hurt to check your compression if you can too so you'll know if the valves are working well enough for now.
                                78 E

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