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  • Blank Slate
    XStremely XSive
    • Nov 2013
    • 392
    • Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

    #136
    You can see the old bolts in the background cover

    Frame: 79 XS1100S
    Engine: 81 XS1100S
    Carbs: 78-79 BS34

    Gf bike: 78 XS650S
    Carbs: 70-79 BS38

    Pics: http://tinypic.com/2mpmkpjb

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    • jetmechmarty
      Master of XSology
      • Nov 2003
      • 7761
      • Coldwater, Mississippi

      #137
      Put anti seize on them. The aluminum case will corrode if you don't. You could even snap a bolt head off trying to remove them one day. Just snug them down. No grunting he man torque is required or recommended.
      Marty (in Mississippi)
      XS1100SG
      XS650SK
      XS650SH
      XS650G
      XS6502F
      XS650E

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      • mack
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Sep 2009
        • 2411
        • Ontario, Canada

        #138
        Hi marty

        is that due to metal incompatability or diff thermo expansion with regard to torque spec's.
        Last edited by mack; 11-17-2015, 06:17 PM.
        mack
        79 XS 1100 SF Special
        HERMES
        original owner
        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

        81 XS 1100 LH MNS
        SPICA
        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

        78 XS 11E
        IOTA
        https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
        https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



        Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
        Frankford, Ont, Canada
        613-398-6186

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        • Blank Slate
          XStremely XSive
          • Nov 2013
          • 392
          • Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

          #139
          Originally posted by jetmechmarty
          Put anti seize on them. The aluminum case will corrode if you don't. You could even snap a bolt head off trying to remove them one day. Just snug them down. No grunting he man torque is required or recommended.
          Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I bought some anti seize (brown copper) which said it was for ss, and I hate the stuff! Messy and makes all my bolts look rusty as heck. Which antiseize is recommended for bolts?
          Frame: 79 XS1100S
          Engine: 81 XS1100S
          Carbs: 78-79 BS34

          Gf bike: 78 XS650S
          Carbs: 70-79 BS38

          Pics: http://tinypic.com/2mpmkpjb

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          • Radioguylogs
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Nov 2012
            • 1933
            • Presque Isle, MI

            #140
            Permatex

            I've been using Permatex anti-seize compound that I purchased at an auto parts store. It's a silver-colored, thick, oily paste. You can clean it off the bolt heads with paint thinner or any solvent if you make a mess.
            -Mike
            _________
            '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
            '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
            '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
            '79 XS750SF 17k miles
            '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
            '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
            '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

            Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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            • Blank Slate
              XStremely XSive
              • Nov 2013
              • 392
              • Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

              #141
              Tx again Mike!
              Frame: 79 XS1100S
              Engine: 81 XS1100S
              Carbs: 78-79 BS34

              Gf bike: 78 XS650S
              Carbs: 70-79 BS38

              Pics: http://tinypic.com/2mpmkpjb

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              • jetmechmarty
                Master of XSology
                • Nov 2003
                • 7761
                • Coldwater, Mississippi

                #142
                Originally posted by Blank Slate
                Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I bought some anti seize (brown copper) which said it was for ss, and I hate the stuff! Messy and makes all my bolts look rusty as heck. Which antiseize is recommended for bolts?
                No. The brown copper is correct. You just apply it to the threads and wipe off the excess. If you're using a torque wrench, the spec in the service manual is for clean, dry threads. Anti-seize is a lubricant, so you'll over-torque the bolts. Just snug them up by hand.

                Originally posted by mack
                is that due to metal incompatability or diff thermo expansion with regard to torque spec's.
                Any time you put dissimilar metals together, you get galvanic corrosion once an electrolyte (moisture) is introduced. The aluminum case will corrode because it is anodic to the stainless bolts which are the cathode. The anode gives up electrons to the cathode. The anti-seize compound creates a barrier between the dissimilar metals. The barrier should at least slow the process if not stop it. It's often unavoidable to put dissimilar metals together because a steel engine is too heavy and aluminum bolts aren't going to be very strong.
                Last edited by jetmechmarty; 11-18-2015, 06:23 PM.
                Marty (in Mississippi)
                XS1100SG
                XS650SK
                XS650SH
                XS650G
                XS6502F
                XS650E

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                • Blank Slate
                  XStremely XSive
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 392
                  • Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

                  #143
                  Ok the manual is not helping. I took the cover of the gear shift off to clean it. Looks great btw... and a spring popped out and bit my finger. I have no idea how to put it back and where does it go? It's the black spring in the pic.

                  Frame: 79 XS1100S
                  Engine: 81 XS1100S
                  Carbs: 78-79 BS34

                  Gf bike: 78 XS650S
                  Carbs: 70-79 BS38

                  Pics: http://tinypic.com/2mpmkpjb

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                  • Radioguylogs
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 1933
                    • Presque Isle, MI

                    #144
                    Don't worry Pablo-it's more simple you'd imagine.

                    There is a post sticking up on the engine side. When you put that "crows foot" looking gear back on, that spring straddles a post on the engine size. It's kind of a three handed operation, keeping the spacer in place as you locate the spring, but it is not at all hard.

                    If it's not clear, you put that "crows foot looking gear back on the engine side before you put the cover back over it. The nub on the "crows foot gear also goes between the ends of the spring, along with engine-side post.

                    You can imagine how it works. The nub pushes against the spring, and the post keeps the spring from moving, so the spring makes the 'crows foot" return back to the same resting position after it move to shift each gear.

                    Someone will post a picture.
                    -Mike
                    _________
                    '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                    '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                    '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                    '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                    '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                    '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                    '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                    Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                    • TopCatGr58
                      Administrator
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 12650
                      • Portsmouth, Va.

                      #145
                      Here's the Tech Tip with photos and info!



                      T.C.
                      T. C. Gresham
                      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                      History shows again and again,
                      How nature points out the folly of men!

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                      • Blank Slate
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 392
                        • Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

                        #146
                        Sweet guys thank you!
                        Frame: 79 XS1100S
                        Engine: 81 XS1100S
                        Carbs: 78-79 BS34

                        Gf bike: 78 XS650S
                        Carbs: 70-79 BS38

                        Pics: http://tinypic.com/2mpmkpjb

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                        • Blank Slate
                          XStremely XSive
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 392
                          • Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

                          #147
                          God bless you for trying to explain this to me but it made absolutely no sense to me without pictures. I had to look at TopCat's link (as I assembled it wrong many times) to finally figure it out. Through trial and error, I got it done.



                          Originally posted by Radioguylogs
                          Don't worry Pablo-it's more simple you'd imagine.

                          There is a post sticking up on the engine side. When you put that "crows foot" looking gear back on, that spring straddles a post on the engine size. It's kind of a three handed operation, keeping the spacer in place as you locate the spring, but it is not at all hard.

                          If it's not clear, you put that "crows foot looking gear back on the engine side before you put the cover back over it. The nub on the "crows foot gear also goes between the ends of the spring, along with engine-side post.

                          You can imagine how it works. The nub pushes against the spring, and the post keeps the spring from moving, so the spring makes the 'crows foot" return back to the same resting position after it move to shift each gear.

                          Someone will post a picture.
                          Frame: 79 XS1100S
                          Engine: 81 XS1100S
                          Carbs: 78-79 BS34

                          Gf bike: 78 XS650S
                          Carbs: 70-79 BS38

                          Pics: http://tinypic.com/2mpmkpjb

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                          • Blank Slate
                            XStremely XSive
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 392
                            • Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

                            #148
                            My center stand is bent. See pic below. I was going to put it in a vice grip but I doubt I have strength to bent it back. I thought about hammering away at it but that could damage it. Suggestions? It was bent when I got it new. Prob should have returned it then.

                            Frame: 79 XS1100S
                            Engine: 81 XS1100S
                            Carbs: 78-79 BS34

                            Gf bike: 78 XS650S
                            Carbs: 70-79 BS38

                            Pics: http://tinypic.com/2mpmkpjb

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                            • Radioguylogs
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 1933
                              • Presque Isle, MI

                              #149
                              eBay

                              There are many centerstands on eBay- because it's a part that (almost) never need replacing. I'm thinking you would probably find one for $10 and spray paint it with Rustoleum satin black.
                              -Mike
                              _________
                              '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                              '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                              '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                              '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                              '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                              '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                              '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                              Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                              • MaximPhil
                                XS-XJ Super Guru
                                • May 2004
                                • 4119
                                • Mississauga, ON CANADA

                                #150
                                Hi Blank Slate,
                                Send a PM to Andreas he has one or more. Give him your address and he will quote a price to your door. Advantage is he is in BC so no border to cross with all the complications that can entail.
                                You might have to wait a few days for a reply as I recall he was off racing ,fishing or drinking maybe all three for a few days
                                Phil
                                Last edited by MaximPhil; 11-20-2015, 07:41 PM.
                                1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
                                1983 XJ 650 Maxim
                                2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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