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  • #61
    Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
    I have tried this and it does work well for finding a misfire. You can usually hear the misfire and see the light missing pulses when you find the problem cylinder.
    Cool! Thanks, Phil.
    I've tracked down many ignition problems on cars this way, just wasn't sure it would work on 11 ignitions.
    '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

    '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

    2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

    In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
    "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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    • #62
      Originally posted by BA80 View Post
      IF the problem is in the coil or wire.
      Exactly...
      That was my point. It would be a quick, easy way to determine if the coils and/or wires are doing their job on each cylinder.

      Quick, easy tests, to either rule out potential problems, or identify them.

      It's a whole lot quicker to do that, than say, pull the carbs.

      And, if ignition has been ruled out as the problem area, then move to the carbs.

      I always prefer to start from baseline... Rule out the easy...then after things point the direction of carbs, go there.

      Most times, that IS where the problems are, but one never knows.
      '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

      '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

      2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

      In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
      "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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      • #63
        There are much easier ways but I won't mention them because some people have read books by people that say I'm wrong. Experience means nothing sometimes.

        Just look it up..........
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by BA80 View Post
          There are much easier ways but I won't mention them because some people have read books by people that say I'm wrong. Experience means nothing sometimes.

          Just look it up..........

          Ok...............

          '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

          '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

          2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

          In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
          "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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          • #65
            Originally posted by XJOK2PLAY View Post
            Yeah, that happens a lot.......
            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

            ― Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

            The list changes.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by BA80 View Post
              I had that issue with the early carbs. If you overtighten the float valve in the carb body it'll crack and leak.
              Don't think so but I will check it.
              KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

              1978 XS1100E Modified
              1978 XS500E
              1979 XS1100F Restored
              1980 XS1100 SG
              1981 Suzuki GS1100
              1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
              1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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              • #67
                Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                I had that issue with the early carbs. If you overtighten the float valve in the carb body it'll crack and leak.
                Originally posted by 79XS11F View Post
                Don't think so but I will check it.
                I wasn't very clear there. I mean the little composite gaskets will crack.
                Greg

                Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                ― Albert Einstein

                80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                The list changes.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                  I wasn't very clear there. I mean the little composite gaskets will crack.
                  Okay. I am using the factory alloy washers but they may need to be heated up and dipped in cool water to fatten and soften them.
                  Rob
                  KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                  1978 XS1100E Modified
                  1978 XS500E
                  1979 XS1100F Restored
                  1980 XS1100 SG
                  1981 Suzuki GS1100
                  1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                  1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                  • #69
                    This makes no sense what so ever. Okay, I have confirmed that the fuel levels in the carbs atre correct and there is no flooding. I hooked up the strobe light and I have no signal on both 1 and 2 and full signal on 3 and 4. i checked timing on 4 and it is good. with carbs paired 1 & 2 / 3 & 4 and ignition paired 1 & 4 and 2 & 3, what the heck is going on here?
                    Rob
                    KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                    1978 XS1100E Modified
                    1978 XS500E
                    1979 XS1100F Restored
                    1980 XS1100 SG
                    1981 Suzuki GS1100
                    1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                    1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                    • #70
                      Have you done a compression test?
                      Greg

                      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                      ― Albert Einstein

                      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                      The list changes.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by BA80 View Post
                        Have you done a compression test?
                        My tester is not working relibility but it makes no difference, there's no signal from the electrial system. I just switched out plugs and no change. The inductive timing light should see the signal even if a cylinder does not fire?
                        Could this be the CDI box?
                        Rob
                        Last edited by 79XS11F; 08-23-2014, 09:55 AM.
                        KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                        1978 XS1100E Modified
                        1978 XS500E
                        1979 XS1100F Restored
                        1980 XS1100 SG
                        1981 Suzuki GS1100
                        1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                        1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                        • #72
                          And the plot thickens. With the plugs on the head i see spark across all 4 but the strobe light will not detect the signal on 1 and 2 but does on 3 and 4. I am wondering if there is a posibility that there is an exhaust system blockage. Maybe some freaking critter got in and blocked the tail pipe of headers or something. Is there any way to determine an exhaust system blockage without exhaust system removal?
                          Rob
                          KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                          1978 XS1100E Modified
                          1978 XS500E
                          1979 XS1100F Restored
                          1980 XS1100 SG
                          1981 Suzuki GS1100
                          1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                          1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                          • #73
                            There's nothing in the tail pipes right up to the first baffle, with the air box cover off there no blockages in the stacks or air intake snorkel and no difference in the way it runs. I'm really getting discouraged now :-(
                            KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                            1978 XS1100E Modified
                            1978 XS500E
                            1979 XS1100F Restored
                            1980 XS1100 SG
                            1981 Suzuki GS1100
                            1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                            1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                            • #74
                              Sounds like you may have a weak coil. If there's a weak spark it won't fire under compression.

                              You got another you can swap out?
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by 79XS11F View Post
                                And the plot thickens. With the plugs on the head i see spark across all 4 but the strobe light will not detect the signal on 1 and 2 but does on 3 and 4. I am wondering if there is a posibility that there is an exhaust system blockage. Maybe some freaking critter got in and blocked the tail pipe of headers or something. Is there any way to determine an exhaust system blockage without exhaust system removal?
                                Rob
                                Apples and oranges.........your secondary ignition issue has nuttin' to do with what exhaust is or isn't doing..........(hang on.....gotta think this thru for a sec.)
                                81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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