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  • Dylano*
    XStremely XSive
    • Apr 2014
    • 202
    • San Luis Obispo, CA.

    #256
    Thanks for the pic, that is exactly what I was expecting!
    Have:
    1994 FZR600
    1982 XJ1100

    Had:
    1996 YZF600R
    2001 Honda xr125
    Suzuki race 80
    Honda PW 50
    Etc.

    Getting:
    1977 DT400

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    • 3Phase
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • May 2008
      • 5529
      • Simi Valley, CA

      #257
      Originally posted by Dylano*
      Awhhhh that sucks about the wheel bearing!
      I have already ordered some jets,
      I'm pretty sure they are genuine.
      I'm excited to get them in and YICS it up! hahaha
      Stffu ahppens.

      I used to be more optimistic and believed that at least it happened to me this time and some other guy was getting a break but the universe doesn't work that way. I have determined that it not only happened to me and the other guy, it probably also happened to at least another half dozen or more people at random.


      It sort of important that you get Mikuni jets so we can keep a common reference for tuning:

      Mikunis are based on the amount of fuel they'll flow.

      Some aftermarket companies size them by the diameter of the hole.
      Some I haven't really figured out but at least they're consistent.
      Some stamp numbers on them but size and flow varies according to the whims of Charley the Third Shift Wonder Chimp.

      .
      -- Scott
      _____

      2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
      1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
      1979 XS1100F: parts
      2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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      • Bonz
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Apr 2008
        • 3206
        • Palmer Lake, Colorado

        #258
        257 posts! Wait, 258...

        Bike running yet...?
        Howard

        ZRX1200

        BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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        • CaptonZap
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Jun 2010
          • 1748
          • Denver

          #259
          Originally posted by Bonz
          257 posts! Wait, 258...

          Bike running yet...?
          It's not the destination, it's the trip.

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          • Dylano*
            XStremely XSive
            • Apr 2014
            • 202
            • San Luis Obispo, CA.

            #260
            The jets I bought SAY they are mikuni, but we will see when they get here!

            No bike isn't running yet, waiting for parts.
            Have:
            1994 FZR600
            1982 XJ1100

            Had:
            1996 YZF600R
            2001 Honda xr125
            Suzuki race 80
            Honda PW 50
            Etc.

            Getting:
            1977 DT400

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            • Tmycal
              XSive
              • Feb 2014
              • 17
              • Los Angeles, CA.

              #261
              Hi, I have a 80 XS11 standard, am running pods and shorty, minimal baffle mufflers. I went through the same growing pains as you. I tried getting the jetting right on my own, got it somewhat close then decided to splurge on a kit from Dynojet, which also includes new needles. The kit worked great for me, bikes running like a champ. Link below.

              Develop a great plan for boosting your motorcycle’s performance by using our convenient, reliable motorcycle carburetor Jet Kits available online. Once you see these kits in action, it will become clear why they’re the products that started the Dynojet fuel tuning legacy. They’ll effortlessly increase power and smoothness throughout the entire rev range. Whether your bike is stock, heavily modified, or created for high-speed racing, our Jet Kits can tune your air/fuel ratio to perfection. Not only will our motorcycle Jet Kits drastically improve your performance, but they’ll also show immediate results. With an increased power output of 5-8% and a fully adjustable design, our kits are the perfect companions to any rider. Expand your vehicle’s performance capabilities today with them.


              In your original post you mentioned that the bike would idle fine and while sitting you could rev it up just fine, but when riding it it would bog down and would go until you reved it up more. I had this exact same problem and it ended up being a common issue which is the ignition advance wiring. The wires are flexible, however over time and I'm assuming due to heat as well the conductor inside the wiring will break down and cause a issue as you described. There is a tutorial on the tech tips for this. Give it a shot, might fix your issues.



              **AH and I see you're form SLO! Rad! I'm a Poly grad and miss it up there! Once I gain more confidence in my XS, I'll surely be taking a trip up there!
              Last edited by Tmycal; 05-21-2014, 12:38 PM.
              80 G

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              • Dylano*
                XStremely XSive
                • Apr 2014
                • 202
                • San Luis Obispo, CA.

                #262
                Thanks for the info! I've been looking at dynojet kits, and I'd these last jets I ordered don't do the trick, I might just get some! About the ignition advance, I don't think my 82 has that, an I wrong?
                Have:
                1994 FZR600
                1982 XJ1100

                Had:
                1996 YZF600R
                2001 Honda xr125
                Suzuki race 80
                Honda PW 50
                Etc.

                Getting:
                1977 DT400

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                • Dylano*
                  XStremely XSive
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 202
                  • San Luis Obispo, CA.

                  #263
                  Random off topic question for everyone, just went and bought a non running bike for my buddy I got it running but it seems to lag when you give it throttle. Like you give it throttle, them back off....THEN it revs then slows down. I feel like that is a common sign of something... but I can't remember what...
                  Have:
                  1994 FZR600
                  1982 XJ1100

                  Had:
                  1996 YZF600R
                  2001 Honda xr125
                  Suzuki race 80
                  Honda PW 50
                  Etc.

                  Getting:
                  1977 DT400

                  Comment

                  • Dylano*
                    XStremely XSive
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 202
                    • San Luis Obispo, CA.

                    #264
                    Originally posted by Tmycal
                    Hi, I have a 80 XS11 standard, am running pods and shorty, minimal baffle mufflers. I went through the same growing pains as you. I tried getting the jetting right on my own, got it somewhat close then decided to splurge on a kit from Dynojet, which also includes new needles. The kit worked great for me, bikes running like a champ. Link below.

                    Develop a great plan for boosting your motorcycle’s performance by using our convenient, reliable motorcycle carburetor Jet Kits available online. Once you see these kits in action, it will become clear why they’re the products that started the Dynojet fuel tuning legacy. They’ll effortlessly increase power and smoothness throughout the entire rev range. Whether your bike is stock, heavily modified, or created for high-speed racing, our Jet Kits can tune your air/fuel ratio to perfection. Not only will our motorcycle Jet Kits drastically improve your performance, but they’ll also show immediate results. With an increased power output of 5-8% and a fully adjustable design, our kits are the perfect companions to any rider. Expand your vehicle’s performance capabilities today with them.


                    In your original post you mentioned that the bike would idle fine and while sitting you could rev it up just fine, but when riding it it would bog down and would go until you reved it up more. I had this exact same problem and it ended up being a common issue which is the ignition advance wiring. The wires are flexible, however over time and I'm assuming due to heat as well the conductor inside the wiring will break down and cause a issue as you described. There is a tutorial on the tech tips for this. Give it a shot, might fix your issues.



                    **AH and I see you're form SLO! Rad! I'm a Poly grad and miss it up there! Once I gain more confidence in my XS, I'll surely be taking a trip up there!
                    I see the dynojet kit comes with main AIR jets as well?
                    Should I be considering changing those?
                    I haven't see this mentioned.

                    Also. If I do decide to get the dynojet kit after-all when/if the jets I have coming DON'T work..

                    On their website it says
                    "
                    Stage 1&3
                    STAGE 1
                    For mildly tuned machines using the stock airbox, with stock or
                    K&N filter #YA-1400
                    STAGE 3
                    For mildly tuned machines using individual filters or velocity
                    stacks. K&N filters #RC-0984
                    Both stages may be used with a good aftermarket slip-on
                    "

                    I'm concerned that even with the stage 3, it wont remedy pods and open headers.

                    Can you show me some pics of your setup?

                    Thanks for the info by the way!
                    Have:
                    1994 FZR600
                    1982 XJ1100

                    Had:
                    1996 YZF600R
                    2001 Honda xr125
                    Suzuki race 80
                    Honda PW 50
                    Etc.

                    Getting:
                    1977 DT400

                    Comment

                    • Tmycal
                      XSive
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 17
                      • Los Angeles, CA.

                      #265
                      Originally posted by Dylano*
                      I see the dynojet kit comes with main AIR jets as well?
                      Should I be considering changing those?
                      I haven't see this mentioned.

                      Also. If I do decide to get the dynojet kit after-all when/if the jets I have coming DON'T work..

                      On their website it says
                      "
                      Stage 1&3
                      STAGE 1
                      For mildly tuned machines using the stock airbox, with stock or
                      K&N filter #YA-1400
                      STAGE 3
                      For mildly tuned machines using individual filters or velocity
                      stacks. K&N filters #RC-0984
                      Both stages may be used with a good aftermarket slip-on
                      "

                      I'm concerned that even with the stage 3, it wont remedy pods and open headers.

                      Can you show me some pics of your setup?

                      Thanks for the info by the way!
                      Here is my bike. Individual pods, with shorty mufflers. I don't know how many times you've cleaned those carbs, but clean them one more time, then do it again. It took me quite a bit of effort and tears to get this bike running right. It is very rewarding, keep at it. When are we going to see some photos of yours?

                      [IMG][/IMG]
                      80 G

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                      • Yahman
                        XSive Maximus
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 779
                        • Salem, OR

                        #266
                        You have some back pressure with that exhaust, Dylano is talking open header. I too recommended the Dynojet kit, but with some back pressure in the exhaust system.

                        Ride safe,
                        Larry
                        Inventor of the YICS Eliminator. Want one? Get it here.
                        http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...399#post183399

                        If you're not riding, you're not living!
                        82 XJ1100
                        80 XS1100G (Project bike)
                        64 Yamaha YA-6
                        77 Suzuki TS-185

                        79 XS1100SF Built this one for a friend.
                        See it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYT4C9_6Ac

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                        • XJ Rob
                          Truly XSive
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 161
                          • Kimball, Michigan

                          #267
                          Just to add one more thing to check AFTER you get it running is..... Leaking throttle shaft seals. If these seals leak the carb sucks air between the shaft and the body of the carb causing an even more lean mix. I only mention it because I HAD that problem. A little spray of carb cleaner on the shaft ends will tell you right away if they are leaking. Just My .02
                          Rob
                          82 XJ1100
                          Stock..With a few cosmetic changes.
                          Current Project..Dad's 81 1100 Special



                          http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/RiderXJ/

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                          • Dylano*
                            XStremely XSive
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 202
                            • San Luis Obispo, CA.

                            #268
                            Tmycal... that bike is AWESOME! I wanted one of those tanks, but couldn't get one. As its been said, those muffler are muchhh more restrictive than mine, mine are PRETTY MUCH open headers.
                            Have:
                            1994 FZR600
                            1982 XJ1100

                            Had:
                            1996 YZF600R
                            2001 Honda xr125
                            Suzuki race 80
                            Honda PW 50
                            Etc.

                            Getting:
                            1977 DT400

                            Comment

                            • Dylano*
                              XStremely XSive
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 202
                              • San Luis Obispo, CA.

                              #269
                              Well my jets got here, I'll install them tomorrow and also re clean my carbs, and also, install my yics tool asked vacuum sync! I'll be back with hopefully great news tomorrow! Maybe then I'll have a pic for you guys. The bike is just roughly thrown together right now, after it runs good I'll make individual pieces a day project to remove, clean, paint, and install again. Eventually it will be great!
                              Have:
                              1994 FZR600
                              1982 XJ1100

                              Had:
                              1996 YZF600R
                              2001 Honda xr125
                              Suzuki race 80
                              Honda PW 50
                              Etc.

                              Getting:
                              1977 DT400

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                              • Dylano*
                                XStremely XSive
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 202
                                • San Luis Obispo, CA.

                                #270
                                Also I'll check for vacuum leaks everywhere including the throttle shafts!
                                Have:
                                1994 FZR600
                                1982 XJ1100

                                Had:
                                1996 YZF600R
                                2001 Honda xr125
                                Suzuki race 80
                                Honda PW 50
                                Etc.

                                Getting:
                                1977 DT400

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