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  • #61
    Hey Nzemke,

    Brant keeps talking about having to get the 1.5 ohm coils for your/early model XS11, but that's not entirely so. The later model XS's went to the 3.0 ohm coils and got rid of the ballast resistor, so the TCI still sees the total 3 ohms resistance on the triggering side.

    SO...as we have stated many times, just get some 3 ohm coils and BYPASS/REMOVE the ballast resistor and you'll be good to go, and you'll have coils that will provide full spark power ALL the time. The 1.5 ohm coils with the ballast resistor in circuit only run on 12 volts during startup, once the bike is running, the power is directed thru the B.R. which drops the voltage down to about 9 volts. This was to keep from frying/overheating the OEM 1.5 ohm coils, but also causes them to produce less/weaker spark energy since running on lower volts. Bypassing the B.R. sends 12 volts to the coils ALL of the time which will provide a stronger spark ALL OF THE TIIME, not just during starting.

    The 1.5 ohms coils are so passe`, just find some newer 3.0 ohm coils whether they be used Honda VFR coils or new aftermarket, bypass the B.R. and you'll be good to go. You'll be surprised at how quickly/easily the bike starts....mine actually felt like it would ROAR to life and not just "start" because of the extra strong spark energy!

    T.C.
    T. C. Gresham
    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
    History shows again and again,
    How nature points out the folly of men!

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    • #62
      Thank you as always for the good ideas. I had been looking through the Dyno switch out and decided that was going to wait for next years tax return...the little lady doesn't protest as much when there is a large lump in the bank. What size of bike and year range should I be looking for when getting coils from a Honda?
      79F with two parts bikes (78E and a 79F). Ran it for the first season all the way through the summer. more work to do this Spring!

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      • #63
        Originally posted by nzemke View Post
        Thank you as always for the good ideas. I had been looking through the Dyno switch out and decided that was going to wait for next years tax return...the little lady doesn't protest as much when there is a large lump in the bank. What size of bike and year range should I be looking for when getting coils from a Honda?
        Mid eighties and up.......any of the four cyls. Just check across poles for either 1.5ohm, or if making the necessary changes, 3ohm.
        81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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        • #64
          [QUOTE=motoman;484356]Mid eighties and up.......any of the four cyls. Just check across poles for either 1.5ohm, or if making the necessary changes, 3ohm. If you'd like, you can also un-solder the original coil plug-in wires and first slip a small piece of shrink tubing over wires and the re-soder them to the VFR replacement coils, then sliding shrink tubing over soldered connection.

          Remember also, soldered electrical connections use rosin core NOT acid core solder or soldered electrical connection will shortly cease complete connection circuit.
          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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          • #65
            So I have heard the saying about making assumptions. And it appears I may make an ass out of my self. I assumed the coils were the issue because it didn't spark after heating up. So I checked the pickup coil after reading the repair mock up. And I'm guessing that the wires going to the pickup coils shouldn't be rubber band elastic....so....what guage wire do I need to replace it with?
            79F with two parts bikes (78E and a 79F). Ran it for the first season all the way through the summer. more work to do this Spring!

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            • #66
              Update

              And it was the Pickup Coil Wires!! I can't believe it!! With all of the other work I have done to this bike she rides amazing compared to before! I think I just need to read the spark plugs to make sure I'm not running lean which I will check tonight when I get home! And I also picked up a round xs special round Tach for the bike...so I can get rid of this cheap 1:1 china crap. Now I need to make a bracket so the gauges are recessed more and not stuck up so high. With these euro style handle bars the gauges look a little funny when they are that high.


              79F with two parts bikes (78E and a 79F). Ran it for the first season all the way through the summer. more work to do this Spring!

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              • #67
                Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                Hey there,

                This phrase has me a little concerned. Carb cleaner sprays can leave petroleum residues that are not good in brake systems. You should get some brake parts cleaner spray to use instead. Glad you found the cause of your sticking brakes.

                T.C.
                Totally agree T.C..
                81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by motoman View Post
                  Totally agree T.C..
                  Lol, it was a miss type I was using a brake cleaner and a carb pick for cleaning the small hole
                  79F with two parts bikes (78E and a 79F). Ran it for the first season all the way through the summer. more work to do this Spring!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by nzemke View Post
                    I only used brake cleaner on it. I was referring to these tools for getting in the small orifice.
                    ......lower pic of a welding tip cleaner......now that's some scary stuff right there now.
                    81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by motoman View Post
                      ......lower pic of a welding tip cleaner......now that's some scary stuff right there now.
                      lol...yeah it was. The smallest pick on it was just small enough to fit.
                      79F with two parts bikes (78E and a 79F). Ran it for the first season all the way through the summer. more work to do this Spring!

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                      • #71
                        So I am messing around with the idea of making a mini fairing for the bike. Now that I have the biking running right I can focus on what should have been last from the start...making her pretty. On that note I'm headed over tomorrow to finally get the hoop installed. Thinking once that is on I will be cutting out a plate that will fit onto the last 8 inches of the seat so I can get it to hold the form to the new bar. Once that is done I can move the LEDs onto the underside so it will light up the rear when I turn on my blinkers. I took day time pictures but have yet to do night time photos so people can see what I'm doing with the LED madness. So far the one thing I'm seeing is that I would like to have LED strips that have more LED's per inch. I can throw a dozen of these strips on there but the closer the LED's are the brighter they are. I just can't beat that fact. As they sit to me it feels like they are good night time lights but not very efficient at day time. If I can't find them then I may have to venture down the path of figuring out how to make them.

                        So let me know what you think of the mock up I drew for a small front fairing.

                        79F with two parts bikes (78E and a 79F). Ran it for the first season all the way through the summer. more work to do this Spring!

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                        • #72
                          What's the purpose of the micro fairing? I got at least three spare fairings with my bike, and one was small, but not as minimal as what you're considering. What is your nose cone designed to do?
                          "Venturered" 80 XS1100G - "DoraMax" getting sort of resto/destro ed.

                          Yeah it's a pretty blue, but just because you're old is no excuse to buy a bagger. Fortunately I have wrenches.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by puskrat View Post
                            What's the purpose of the micro fairing? I got at least three spare fairings with my bike, and one was small, but not as minimal as what you're considering. What is your nose cone designed to do?
                            My thought was to push the wind up and away from my chest. But I think I'm done monkeying with it for now. I have been riding it to work every day for the last two weeks. Just going to ride it how it is for the season. Maybe look at some more changes end of the year.
                            79F with two parts bikes (78E and a 79F). Ran it for the first season all the way through the summer. more work to do this Spring!

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                            • #74
                              Do you ride more or less upright, standard style, or leaning forward a la sportbike. Your bars make me think forward.
                              "Venturered" 80 XS1100G - "DoraMax" getting sort of resto/destro ed.

                              Yeah it's a pretty blue, but just because you're old is no excuse to buy a bagger. Fortunately I have wrenches.

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                              • #75
                                So it has been a while since I posted. The riding season here in washington state is starting to dwindle down. I really enjoyed the first season of riding her all the way through. I have heard the valve noise from the top end all summer and it has slowly grown worse. So yesterday I purchased another parts bike. The first parts bike I will admit I didn't do right by. I tore it apart mostly for the learning lesson. It was never going to run again anyways and was missing so many parts it would have taken way to much money to get there. So now I'm here with another parts bike with much better intentions. I feel like for the first couple years there was a lot of stumbling in the dark on this bike. I made mistakes. I screwed a few things up. but over all I learned a LOT about how this bike works. Mid spring I also picked up an early 70's honda with the intention of restoring it in another year or two. For the price I couldn't let it go. The most recent addition is a 78E with a 79 special tank. No rear shocks. No carburetors or airbox. All of the electrical appears intact. And it has a 4 to one muffler that is missing the baffling. This is just what I have found missing so far. The story I was given when I picked it up was that the last fool to ride it was the day of and after mount saint helens blew. The individual road it without wrapping the air filters and scored the crap out of the cylinders. I'm hoping that this didn't do much to the valves. But I will find out when I tear it down. Either way my bike won't take another season unless I spend the 900 to have the head re sleeved and brand new valves. And there is no way my other half would let me spend that kind of money. Before I got her rideable she told me once a week to just get rid of it and buy a new one. So I have 6 months to finish my bachelor's program then this will get my full attention.

                                This next time around the plan is to tear it down to the frame and pickup a rebuild kit for the engine and replace my bearings. To many times of messing with the carbs and having them pouring gas into the engine, I can hear the bearings in the lower engine. Go through the three bikes and build one good clutch. The current one is having issues with moving between gears, no slippage. Swap the heads between this parts bike and mine. I will replace the valve seals on the donor bike, as well as cleaning each valve and reseating it. When I put the current one on in the spring I new that there was slop. But i didn't realize just how much that would affect everything. Finish the frame and then repaint it. I already picked up the paint gun and have been messing around with it. Not to shabby at this point. The seat I made the first round. And I think for the second round I'm going to modify the seat so it fits better with the bike. I will also take the color to a much darker brown, or a black. I want the seat to look like it fits within the frame. That's the look I have going with the new side panels and would like to transfer that to the seat. So that's the plan for now. I imagine it will be a few months before I post again but want to let you know that I hadn't bastardized it past riding. And that I wasn't one of those people that screws up one of these beauties and then throws it to ebay as parts This is an ever growing project. Something that I am learning from and will continue to make better and better as the years pass.

                                The new addition
                                79F with two parts bikes (78E and a 79F). Ran it for the first season all the way through the summer. more work to do this Spring!

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