ZRX1200 Carb Conversion

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  • Bonz
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Apr 2008
    • 3325
    • Palmer Lake, Colorado

    #91
    For sure I don't want to be the one to say pilots and it's the mains or say mains and it's pilots. Lol.

    Three turns out of the pilot says that's pretty good for idle, Going up a size in pilots would probably mean two turns out total on the new screw setting more or less.

    If you feel it pulls good up top, try richening up the needle a half position at a time. If you are at three notches down from the top, put a washer under the clip to make it 3.5. Or however you would arrange the clip and washer to get a half position based on your current setting.

    I've discovered two stages to barely cracked throttle according to my wrist and the AFR gauge. Barely barely cracked which is still the pilot system, and then barely cracked past that which starts to bring the needle up out of the main ever so slightly. I tend to spend more time at the second stage of barely cracked throttle and was leaner than I wanted to be. A half position on the needle got it better without richening everything else up too much.

    Thanks for asking for the advice, I hope it gets things richened up.
    Howard

    2001 ZRX 1200
    1982 Seca 750
    1983 Nighthawk 550

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    • IanDMacDonald
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Oct 2010
      • 3997
      • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

      #92
      Here's what I'm thinking: (3) turns out for the Keihins seems too far. So, I'm going to take the pilots out to 42's from 40's. Then, the Main's from 140's to 142's. I think that may be the perfect mix. Ideally, I leave the needles in the middle position.
      1979 XS1100F
      2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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      • Bonz
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Apr 2008
        • 3325
        • Palmer Lake, Colorado

        #93
        That's as good of a plan as any. Three turns out on ZRX (Keihin) carburetors is not too many, IMO. Unless you feel like the screws are going to rattle out so to speak. 2.5-3 turns is a common setup with most aftermarket jet kits running those carburetors on the ZRX.

        Main thing is you want to richen it up, and both of those will accomplish it from opposite ends of the operational spectrum. No harm running a bit rich versus the alternative.
        Howard

        2001 ZRX 1200
        1982 Seca 750
        1983 Nighthawk 550

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        • IanDMacDonald
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Oct 2010
          • 3997
          • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

          #94
          Originally posted by Bonz
          That's as good of a plan as any. Three turns out on ZRX (Keihin) carburetors is not too many, IMO. Unless you feel like the screws are going to rattle out so to speak. 2.5-3 turns is a common setup with most aftermarket jet kits running those carburetors on the ZRX.

          Main thing is you want to richen it up, and both of those will accomplish it from opposite ends of the operational spectrum. No harm running a bit rich versus the alternative.
          If I remember correctly, anything past 3.5 turns on the mixture screws, and the screws felt loose from lack of thread engagement. So, going up in the pilots will probs help. I have to make a trip to Chicago tomorrow, and Atlanta on Wednesday, so I'll wait for the mains to come before slapping the carbs back on. I ordered two more sets of plugs to test with.
          1979 XS1100F
          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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          • Bonz
            XS-XJ Super Guru
            • Apr 2008
            • 3325
            • Palmer Lake, Colorado

            #95
            Looking forward to the next time you can work on it. Thanks for all the updates.
            Howard

            2001 ZRX 1200
            1982 Seca 750
            1983 Nighthawk 550

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            • jetmechmarty
              Master of XSology
              • Nov 2003
              • 8069
              • Coldwater, Mississippi

              #96
              Another twist. To richen less than a jet size, go down a size on the air jet.
              Marty (in Mississippi)
              XS1100SG
              XS650SK
              XS650SH
              XS650G
              XS6502F
              XS650E

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              • IanDMacDonald
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Oct 2010
                • 3997
                • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

                #97
                Originally posted by jetmechmarty
                Another twist. To richen less than a jet size, go down a size on the air jet.
                The one jet most of us never touch on these.

                Yet, on my Volkswagen Weber carbs, the air correction jet is the difference between a happy engine & not.
                1979 XS1100F
                2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                • Bonz
                  XS-XJ Super Guru
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3325
                  • Palmer Lake, Colorado

                  #98
                  ZRX carburetors don't have adjustable air jets. Air jets are pressed in place.

                  It's a good idea if it was something that could be done.
                  Last edited by Bonz; Today, 07:11 PM.
                  Howard

                  2001 ZRX 1200
                  1982 Seca 750
                  1983 Nighthawk 550

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