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  • DEEBS11
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Feb 2023
    • 1718
    • Connecticut

    #16
    These areas are very suspect. When the rubber outer cover of the wire is cold they can give a false continuity check because the material is condensed and holding the broken pieces together. When the rubber is warm from a hot engine, the now softer material can stretch slightly and separate the inner wire core especially with a vibrating motor and the twist of the advance unit.


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    • DEEBS11
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Feb 2023
      • 1718
      • Connecticut

      #17

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      • Schming
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Jul 2009
        • 2076
        • Pittsburgh,PA

        #18
        Hi shopteach, It is a good preventative measure to isolate the neutral safety switch wire into its own loom. Also remove it from the Molex connector above. This mod helps when riding in wet weather or after washing misfires. Since you have the hard part done makes it an easy job.
        1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
        1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
        1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
        1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
        1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

        Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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        • Radioguylogs
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Nov 2012
          • 2041
          • Presque Isle, MI

          #19
          Originally posted by Schming
          Hi shopteach, It is a good preventative measure to isolate the neutral safety switch wire into its own loom. Also remove it from the Molex connector above. This mod helps when riding in wet weather or after washing misfires. Since you have the hard part done makes it an easy job.
          I've had two cylinders become mostly dead after washing. I believe this was was the cause. Cleared up after a few days.
          -Mike
          _________
          '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
          '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
          '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
          '79 XS750SF 17k miles
          '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
          '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
          '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

          Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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          • bikerphil
            Master of XSology
            • Jan 2008
            • 8754
            • South Flori-DUH

            #20
            I think what is happening with the dropping of 2 cylinders in wet conditions is water gets splashed/directed in the area of the loom connector behind the fuse panel. A solution for this is to wrap the connector with electrical tape in such a way, so no water can enter there.
            2H7 (79) owned since '89
            3H3 owned since '06

            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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            • Radioguylogs
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Nov 2012
              • 2041
              • Presque Isle, MI

              #21
              Originally posted by bikerphil
              I think what is happening with the dropping of 2 cylinders in wet conditions is water gets splashed/directed in the area of the loom connector behind the fuse panel. A solution for this is to wrap the connector with electrical tape in such a way, so no water can enter there.
              Makes sense, since the wires are insulated in the other locations.
              -Mike
              _________
              '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
              '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
              '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
              '79 XS750SF 17k miles
              '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
              '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
              '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

              Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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              • DiverRay
                Moderator
                • Nov 2004
                • 7714
                • Star, IDAHO

                #22
                You can also put a LITTLE bit of dielectric grease inside the connector to keep the water out. I know some on this site do not like it, but Honda, Toyota, and older GM's all used it. The change is the "new" weatherproof connectors now being used by almost all the manufacturers.
                Ray Matteis
                KE6NHG
                XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                • jetmechmarty
                  Master of XSology
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 7820
                  • Coldwater, Mississippi

                  #23
                  I had to replace my crankshaft seal. My “bigger the blob the better the job” repair was temporary and probably made on the side of the road. Certainly not in my own garage. It has been so long I don’t remember doing it, only that I needed to do it over before it failed.
                  It may be after the holidays before I get after it.
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                  The wire used was meter leads. That’s best use of a cheap Harbor Freight meter.
                  Last edited by jetmechmarty; 12-18-2025, 06:47 PM.
                  Marty (in Mississippi)
                  XS1100SG
                  XS650SK
                  XS650SH
                  XS650G
                  XS6502F
                  XS650E

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                  • DEEBS11
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Feb 2023
                    • 1718
                    • Connecticut

                    #24
                    I use this stuff.






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                    • jetmechmarty
                      Master of XSology
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 7820
                      • Coldwater, Mississippi

                      #25
                      Yes, I have some of that silicone wire on hand. That’s what I’ll be using. That, and some half length butt splices (uninsulated) if they’re small enough to grip the wire.
                      Marty (in Mississippi)
                      XS1100SG
                      XS650SK
                      XS650SH
                      XS650G
                      XS6502F
                      XS650E

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                      • Radioguylogs
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 2041
                        • Presque Isle, MI

                        #26
                        I was anal about matching the colors.

                        I used solder/heatshrink, which I know solder is not the first choice of JetmechMarty, but I was happy with the results.

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                        -Mike
                        _________
                        '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                        '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                        '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                        '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                        '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                        '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                        '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                        Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                        • DiverRay
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 7714
                          • Star, IDAHO

                          #27
                          And I see you did NOT pinch the wires tightly with the clamps! THAT is why they break in the first place. When I took delivery of my first XS1100 in September of 1977 the dealer didn't have a mechanic. I assembled the bike from the crate and rode it out of the shop. I had a miss about six months after owning it and traced it to a broken pickup coil wire. I had the shop owner send Yamaha a note that they pinched the wires too tightly, and it caused them to break. Never heard anything back from them. I loosened the clamp so the wires could slide as everything moved and never had a problem with the pickup coils. I did sell that bike after about 4 years and 35K miles.
                          Ray Matteis
                          KE6NHG
                          XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                          XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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