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  • Originally posted by James England View Post
    so long as I'm not being a bore.....

    I'm waiting for some bits to come back from the chromers. I sent off the front and rear indicator stalks, pillion rail, gearchange lever and rear light bracket...then got reckless and took the entire rear fender in as I realised that, with the other bits newly-chromed the fender would look awful. So, I'm due to get those back soon too!
    James, we all love builds ... definitely not boring!

    As for the chroming, if you're going to do it, you may as well do it right and have any part you think may need it chromed ... FWIW, that's what I would do ...
    Marco

    Current bikes:
    1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
    1979 Honda CBX
    2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

    Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
    WE MISS YOU, DON

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    • Originally posted by Prisoner6 View Post
      James, we all love builds ... definitely not boring!

      As for the chroming, if you're going to do it, you may as well do it right and have any part you think may need it chromed ... FWIW, that's what I would do ...
      the rear light unit chrome had rusted in the usual places and needed to be redone, along with the indicator stalks. Then I realised the fender would definitely look inferior with the newly chromed bits on it. 'Mission creep' !
      XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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      • Originally posted by James England View Post
        the rear light unit chrome had rusted in the usual places and needed to be redone, along with the indicator stalks. Then I realised the fender would definitely look inferior with the newly chromed bits on it. 'Mission creep' !
        Ha! Good analogy ...
        Marco

        Current bikes:
        1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
        1979 Honda CBX
        2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

        Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
        WE MISS YOU, DON

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        • James, do you have trouble finding a chrome plater over there?
          It seems that the US government has crippled the small platers in this country with regulations to the point that there are very few chrome platers left that will do job lots of parts. And the ones that do are expensive.
          I've heard that the British government is cracking down on hexavalent chrome plateing, and will cause the same problem over there.
          Nice job on the restoration. If the exhaust fabricators replicated the original innards, I can understand the price they charge. There are a lot of parts inside.
          Later, CZ

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          • Originally posted by CaptonZap View Post
            James, do you have trouble finding a chrome plater over there?
            It seems that the US government has crippled the small platers in this country with regulations to the point that there are very few chrome platers left that will do job lots of parts. And the ones that do are expensive.
            I've heard that the British government is cracking down on hexavalent chrome plateing, and will cause the same problem over there.
            Nice job on the restoration. If the exhaust fabricators replicated the original innards, I can understand the price they charge. There are a lot of parts inside.
            Later, CZ
            Chroming here is not at all a problem. No doubt the EU will impose some sort of restriction on it, like they do everything else here...... Yes, the exhausts have all the innards...baffles not wadding, secondary silencing from the boxes underneath......see my next post!
            XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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            • Here's an update folks......with plenty of pix which we all know and love...


              I picked up the rechromed bits from a chroming company only 6 miles away. I had the following parts done...rear fender and light bracket, front and rear indicator stems, fuel cap, gearchange lever (which they have lost and are currently trawling their vats for!)













              The new exhaust system arrived from Germany this week but I've only just had time to unpack it, so here's some pix.....

              Box isn't too big...



              Silencer



              Other side








              Yamaha part number engraved on for a authentic look.....



              Headers and little bag of Haribo candy from the seller, Bjorn. I can chew on these whilst contemplating my depleted bank balance...

              Headers take standard finned flanges to attach to cylinder head..




              I'll be starting the fitting of the system in the next few days and will post some pix as things progress........
              XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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              • Headers on

                Got the headers on...easy enough. The flanges on the headers are the exact diameter of the recessed area of the finned clamps....



                Here's a pic of the rest of the system..



                Onwards and upwards.....
                XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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                • Here's a few pix of the complete exhaust system installed on the bike. It took only minor tweaking of the two support brackets (adding a few washers) to get everything lined up. The centre stand foot pedal needs to be bent out wards by about 2mm as it's just catching on the side of the silencer. Apart from that, it's an easy fit. The headers slot into the silencers without the need for clamps, just a bit of silicone.

                  I'm looking for a couple of heat shields now which cover the joints on the OEM system ..just to finish it off. I got some from Denmark last time but am trawling eBay for some daily.....







                  Underneath view did the two silencer boxes

                  XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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                  • Looks awesome!

                    You do realize that we all hate you (in a good way) because of that exhaust!
                    Nathan
                    KD9ARL

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                    1978 XS1100E
                    K&N Filter
                    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                    OEM Exhaust
                    ATK Fork Brace
                    LED Dash lights
                    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                    Green Monster Coils
                    SS Brake Lines
                    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                    Theodore Roosevelt

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                    • Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                      Looks awesome!

                      You do realize that we all hate you (in a good way) because of that exhaust!
                      Imagine the cost, OMG, could buy five bikes over here for the cost of the chroming not to mention the custom fab exhaust ?

                      James I've been looking forward to seeing your builds. This is SICK (means it makes me sick it's so beautiful) can't wait to see it done. Keep it coming ! Don'e
                      76 XS650 C ROADSTER
                      80 XS650 G Special II
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                      80 XS 1100 SG
                      81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
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                      AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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                      • Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                        Looks awesome!

                        You do realize that we all hate you (in a good way) because of that exhaust!
                        Oops! It was the same last time I bought one...and this time the build quality is much better. Last time, the middle boxes were too big and I had to get one adapted in order to allow the centre stand to park correctly. Also, there was a more of an upturn on the silencers. They've improved a lot with this one and it went straight on with a few packing washers on the front bolt hole of each bracket. Also the centre stand works correctly. The thing is, for this kind of thing, it just has to be right. Re the 'hatred'...I hope I don't appear to be crowing about the build..more a case of my enthusiasm and being a bit evangelical about these great bikes.



                        XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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                        • Originally posted by donebysunday View Post
                          Imagine the cost, OMG, could buy five bikes over here for the cost of the chroming not to mention the custom fab exhaust ?

                          James I've been looking forward to seeing your builds. This is SICK (means it makes me sick it's so beautiful) can't wait to see it done. Keep it coming ! Don'e
                          i know you are too polite to ask, so. I'll spill the beans re cost. Chroming was $560. Re the exhaust.... $1024 including delivery..BUT.... I sold the stainless exhaust that was already on the bike for $479, so it actually cost $545. A Mac system here, with delivery from the US, costs $540. A Marshall Deeptone costs $718 new. So, the replica stainless system didn't cost much. OKAY, I got lucky with the old exhaust being a handmade stainless system but I did factor that into things when I bought the bike.

                          The tank, panels and seat trims and cowl went off to the spray shop today and will be done in the Yamaha paint code..it's black with a fine dusting of gold under the lacquer, new decals etc. By the way, the seat trims are now made new here in the UK..... Original ones are usually rusty and in very poor condition, so a manufacturer here now makes them and they are excellent. Trim fitting kits are available too.

                          So, the next update will be with the paint job done. also four replica indicators which I also got from Germany. I've found OEM ones are always pitted and bubbled, with dull lenses and generally tatty. The replicas are 99% right and actually less expensive than buying duff OEM ones.....

                          Btw if anyone has any chrome exhaust trims from a US standard, in very good condition, I'd be very interested in buying them......

                          The final stage will be to get the engine tuned. I've run it briefly with no headers and it ran on all four cylinders, so the carb rebuilds have cured the rough running on 3 (I found a blocked jet).

                          Onwards and upwards!
                          Last edited by James England; 11-03-2014, 05:42 PM.
                          XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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                          • Originally posted by James England View Post
                            Re the 'hatred'...I hope I don't appear to be crowing about the build..more a case of my enthusiasm and being a bit evangelical about these great bikes.

                            It is a unflattering jealousy hate
                            Nathan
                            KD9ARL

                            μολὼν λαβέ

                            1978 XS1100E
                            K&N Filter
                            #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                            OEM Exhaust
                            ATK Fork Brace
                            LED Dash lights
                            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                            Green Monster Coils
                            SS Brake Lines
                            Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                            In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                            Theodore Roosevelt

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                            • Originally posted by James England View Post
                              ...Btw if anyone has any chrome exhaust trims from a US standard, in very good condition, I'd be very interested in buying them......
                              The US versions are welded on, so not much help for you (plus cutting them off without trashing them). Have you given any thought to having a set made from stainless?

                              It's gonna be another beauty, and it looks like they got the 'angle' right in the exhaust this time. And while many will blanch at the cost of that exhaust, given what NOS OEM systems have gone for on the rare occasions that they show up, the price is competitive.
                              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                              '78E original owner - resto project
                              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                              '82 XJ rebuild project
                              '80SG restified, red SOLD
                              '79F parts...
                              '81H more parts...

                              Other current bikes:
                              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                              • James

                                I would really like to know the source of the exhaust. Cost is comparative to new stock systems. I would be curious to know if they are in the business of building a new system for a special. My thinking being that if it were new then I could have it sent out to have a black chrome finish put on it. No one wants to mess with used systems for re chroming in any color but if it were brand new then I think the story might be different. Believe it would be worth looking into if you could divulge the source. If you want you can PM me with that information if it does not need to be shared publicly.

                                By the way ..... beautiful job so far on that machine. It looks awesome.
                                2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                                81 LH
                                02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                                22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                                Jim

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