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  • #31
    I just lined a tank with the Caswell stuff. It wasn't difficult and it cures as hard as glass. Those holes will be no issue for that stuff. Just put tape on them.



    Epoxy Gas Tank Sealer

    I believe this would be your cheapest and quickest fix.

    Phenol Novolac Epoxies are a new breed of chemical resistant materials, able to withstand permanent immersion of many harsh solvents, fuels and oils. This Epoxy has much better bond strength than single component products, with strengths of up to 3000 PSI, and this higher strength reduces the need for a clinically clean surface, as the epoxy actually prefers to bond to a rough rusty surface. Our new phenol novolac is more thixotropic, which means it 'hangs' on the tank walls during the coating process. This gives a thicker overall coating. There is more volume of material in the kit to allow for this.
    Marty (in Mississippi)
    XS1100SG
    XS650SK
    XS650SH
    XS650G
    XS6502F
    XS650E

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    • #32
      Finally got the holes filled I'll have to bring the petcocks to work tomorrow and see if it's gonna hold.



      Didn't hurt the paint real bad.

      Greg

      Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

      ― Albert Einstein

      80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

      The list changes.

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      • #33
        Did I miss something? What did you do to fill the holes, weld, braze, or epoxy?
        Bone stock 1980 Special except for the exhaust and crashbars. Oh yeah, and the scabbard for the Winchester Defender.

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        • #34
          Silver solder.
          Greg

          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

          ― Albert Einstein

          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

          The list changes.

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          • #35
            test with soapy water and air pressure?
            Skids (Sid Hansen)

            Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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            • #36
              I'll be testing it tomorrow. I'll put the petcocks back in and put some fuel in it. I had Evaporust in it for over a week before I painted it and it never leaked a drop until I but gas in it.
              Greg

              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

              ― Albert Einstein

              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

              The list changes.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by skids View Post
                test with soapy water and air pressure?
                Bad idea, you could end up inflating the tank.
                '79 XS11 F
                Stock except K&N

                '79 XS11 SF
                Stock, no title.

                '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                • #38
                  I face the same dilema and decided to try the caswell kit. I cleaned the inside several times with acetone and plan to coat it tonight. I was then going to fill the pin holes on the outside with body filler and have the tank primed and painted. There have been many good reports about this stuff and there is an article in this months Canadian Vintage Motorcyle Group magazine about how to apply it. They key with this stuff is removing all gas residue from the tank with multiple acetone flushes. They discuss using it with a fiberglass tank but it should apply to metal as well. Here is what they say:

                  “Regarding Dick Cowling’s need to seal a fiberglass tank I’ve
                  found the best product is Caswell epoxy.
                  http://www.caswellcanada.ca/shop/epo...nk-sealer.html
                  The only problem I’ve seen with this kit is ensuring that the
                  tank is really clean and dry before putting in the sealer. I
                  disagree with their instructions to use paint stripper in a
                  fiberglass tank. In most cases it causes more damage. My
                  personal preference is to use acetone. Put in a pint at a time
                  swish it around and dump it out. Obviously the petcock has
                  been removed and the hole plugged. When you dump the
                  acetone it will have some colour from gas and oil residue
                  (especially those old Spanish two-strokes). Keep rinsing until
                  the acetone comes out clear. I’ve used up to a gallon of
                  acetone to fully clean one tank. I ignore more of Caswell
                  instructions and skip the water/soap/water rinse. Following
                  the acetone allow the tank to completely dry which may take
                  a day or so. Placing the tank out in the hot sun speeds
                  drying time as does blowing with an air hose, as long as you
                  don’t have any moisture to contaminate your nice clean tank.
                  Mix the epoxy as suggested by the kit instructions. I find a
                  small paint mixer on a drill ensures a good mix. Don’t waste
                  any time after mixing as the material starts setting up fairly
                  quickly. Dump it in the tank. Put a plastic
                  bag over the filler cap or get creative. I have
                  spare caps for doing the epoxy on my
                  Bultacos. Flip the tank every which way to ensure you get
                  good coverage. You don’t have to do this fast. In fact I find
                  doing a slow roll of the tank taking about a minute will
                  ensure it flows over all the internal surfaces.
                  When you think you have good coverage open the filler and
                  dump out the remaining epoxy. Allow the tank to dry completely
                  for 24 hours. Remove the petcock fitting plug and run
                  a drill through the epoxy layer. If you have crossover line
                  fittings they will need to be drilled out as well. Now the tank
                  is ready to be finished on the outside. The epoxy resists the
                  ethanol in modern fuels and even resists race fuel and other
                  nasty stuff that I use to fuel my old Spanish Iron.”
                  81H Venture - hope to ride summer 2013
                  79F Cafe Racer at Some Point;
                  68 CB175 Sloper - Cafe Racer
                  74 KZ400 - Restoration project nightmare
                  62 BSA Super Rocket - In Pieces
                  72 CB100 Super Sport - Not super or sporty but fun

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                  • #39
                    Well, I'm drying the tank again. Put gas in it this morning and it's still leaking around those 2 larger holes.
                    Greg

                    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                    ― Albert Einstein

                    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                    The list changes.

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                    • #40
                      If your tank is painted and you don't want to mess it up, you had best wrap it up. That stuff doesn't come off.



                      Here is the whole story about fixing my tank:

                      XS650 Garage Tank Liner Failed
                      Marty (in Mississippi)
                      XS1100SG
                      XS650SK
                      XS650SH
                      XS650G
                      XS6502F
                      XS650E

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                      • #41
                        http://www.caswellplating.com/restor...nk-sealer.html

                        Looks like a nice epoxy sealer, that will fill holes.
                        1979 XS1100SF.

                        "You know what makes me sad... YOU DO, Why dont we run over to mamby pamby land and get you some self confidence you jack wagon" Will go down as one of the great quotes LOL

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Mr.Bill View Post
                          http://www.caswellplating.com/restor...nk-sealer.html

                          Looks like a nice epoxy sealer, that will fill holes.
                          Used the caswell coating years ago, followed the directions exactly. I remember reading leave the tank cure for 3 days before using ( could be different now ? ), I did follow the directions. Put it all back together added fuel and within a short time the coating began to dissolve. Called caswell and they said you should leave it cure at least 3 weeks, I argued I followed your directions, they say we will send you a new kit. By the time the new kit came the coating was still soft in the tank, through it and the new kit in the trash. I admit it could have been my fault but I will never use it again. Por 15 is one I've heard was good and another at the farmers stores for tanks on tractors.
                          76 XS650 C ROADSTER
                          80 XS650 G Special II
                          https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
                          80 XS 1100 SG
                          81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
                          https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
                          AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by WMarshy View Post
                            Bad idea, you could end up inflating the tank.
                            I didn't mean inflate to 28psi. You could turn on your shop vac to blowing and that would be enough pressure to make bubbles.
                            Skids (Sid Hansen)

                            Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                            • #44
                              PS I inflated a tank once when trying to remove a dent and you are right....bad idea!
                              Skids (Sid Hansen)

                              Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by donebysunday View Post
                                Used the caswell coating years ago, followed the directions exactly. I remember reading leave the tank cure for 3 days before using ( could be different now ? ), I did follow the directions. Put it all back together added fuel and within a short time the coating began to dissolve. Called caswell and they said you should leave it cure at least 3 weeks, I argued I followed your directions, they say we will send you a new kit. By the time the new kit came the coating was still soft in the tank, through it and the new kit in the trash. I admit it could have been my fault but I will never use it again. Por 15 is one I've heard was good and another at the farmers stores for tanks on tractors.
                                I remember you telling me that story, UD. The fact that it's epoxy rather than solvent based sucked me right in. I let it sit for a month before I put gasoline in it. So far, so good.
                                Marty (in Mississippi)
                                XS1100SG
                                XS650SK
                                XS650SH
                                XS650G
                                XS6502F
                                XS650E

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