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    anyone tried putting the mikunis off a gs1100e onto the xs11. the ones that i have been looking at are 34mm and from the early 80's so i'm curious if they could be modified to work. any input would be appreciated.
    80 MNS; 81 Venturer

  • #2
    The spacing is different as you can see here..... GS on the left, XS on the right.



    And being the carb throat is smaller too you will play hell getting them installed and sealed.
    Last edited by BA80; 05-16-2012, 04:59 PM.
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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    • #3
      People have use the Kawasaki ZRX carbs and have reported good results. If you were considering purchasing a different set I would go with the ZRX's.
      '79 XS11 F
      Stock except K&N

      '79 XS11 SF
      Stock, no title.

      '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
      GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

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      • #4
        thanks greg, you saved me some money, and now my carb hunt continues...
        80 MNS; 81 Venturer

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        • #5
          Your welcome Nick. I just happend to have that set of GS carbs here that came with the last XS parts bike I picked up, uninstalled of course, so I could show you the comparison.

          Glad I could help and save you some grief.

          I had the same thoughts when I got this thing home but after some study I found that it would be virtually impossible to make it work right.
          Greg

          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

          ― Albert Einstein

          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

          The list changes.

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          • #6
            yeah im new to the motorcycle world, but i work in a machine shop so fabricating things is a bit easier... but im gonna take your word for it on these haha
            80 MNS; 81 Venturer

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            • #7
              GS1100 carbs

              Yep..they will work. If my memory serves me right the only difference is the spacing on the rack.
              78 XS1100E Standard
              Coca Cola Red
              Hooker Headers

              http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/p...m/DSC00580.jpg

              1979 XS1100 Special
              http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/p...m/DSC00612.jpg

              1980 XS Standard
              http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/p...m/DSC01137.jpg

              2006 Roadstar Warrior
              http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/p...um/warrior.jpg

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              • #8
                Maybe just switch the racks?

                Foreda beat me to it. But if Greg says the throats are different diameter, you got a problem.

                NICK: Do you have any carbs now to draw parts from? i might have another solution for you. PM or email me.
                Tom Clisham

                Age is relative YOU WON"T GET OLD TIL YOU SELL THE BIKE
                _____________________________________________

                '78xs1100E ,all stock & original GONE TO WISCONSIN

                '80 SG Vetter fairing,hard bags,trunk,fork brace,
                stock headers with fishtail mufflers,black & beautiful GONE TO ARIZONA

                79SF lowered,jardine 4/2 exhaust,pod filters,drilled rotors,fork brace, bar hopper

                79SF 1 owner,8000 miles, restoring to completely original ( I hope) GONE TO FRANCE

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by foreda View Post
                  Yep..they will work. If my memory serves me right the only difference is the spacing on the rack.
                  Not only is the GS rack about 1" narrower, the end that fits into the intake boot is 40mm where as the 1100 carbs are 42mm.
                  Greg

                  Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                  ― Albert Einstein

                  80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                  The list changes.

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                  • #10
                    As one of those who switched to the Keihin carbs from a ZRX, I respectfully ask the question; why make the switch from early 80's Mikunis to another set of early 80's Mikunis from another make of bike?

                    The reason I switched to the Keihins (aside from the performance aspect) was that the ZRX rack is 20 year newer technology, parts are easier to find, they take and hold a tune-up much more easily and are vitrually a plug-n-play deal.

                    Here is a pic or two of my 36mm carbs. They are from a 2001 ZRX-1200. Whole deal was under $200.00 (including the new filters and choke set-up) and the performance is like night and day compared to the 70/80's era Mikunis. So if you are changing to different carbs then, this (or something similar) is the way to go. Plus, they have a neat idle speed adjustment knob at the bottom of the #1 carb.



                    Mike Giroir
                    79 XS-1100 Special

                    Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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                    • #11
                      those are sweet, unfortunately i can't find a set of those for anywheres near that price... i would preferf that set up because it makes perfect sense(in theory).
                      80 MNS; 81 Venturer

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                      • #12
                        Hey Nick. Granted I got a steal of a deal on the carbs but they do pop up on Ebay from time to time and I am sure there are others that will do the trick too. I have seen sets off of slightly older 1999 ZRX-1100's more often there. They are the same carburetor but you will need to re-jet them to much larger jets. But then, you would need to re-jet anyways.
                        Mike Giroir
                        79 XS-1100 Special

                        Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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                        • #13
                          First search I did for zrx carbs on ebay came back with 6 racks for right about $200.
                          Nathan
                          KD9ARL

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                          1978 XS1100E
                          K&N Filter
                          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                          OEM Exhaust
                          ATK Fork Brace
                          LED Dash lights
                          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                          Green Monster Coils
                          SS Brake Lines
                          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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                          • #14
                            the ones i have been looking at have a "K-tric" sensor... any issues with them
                            80 MNS; 81 Venturer

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                            • #15
                              If you guys are still out there, the KTRIC is simply a throttle position sensor used as part of the equation to adjust timing advance. Will have no bearing for use on the XS.

                              Most guys (myself included) disconnect the KTRIC on the ZRX as it changes the timing (more advance) below 4k rpm to give a more favorable throttle response.
                              Howard

                              ZRX1200

                              BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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