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  • #46
    I just did a quick search and came up with this:
    12R-12121-00-00
    http://www.partspak.com/ProductCart/...product=131182

    For $35.36. Not too bad.
    Other sites had them around $60
    I had a slightly bent valve on my SG. The exhaust valves on the 80-81s are a lot harder to find.
    Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!

    80G (Green paint(PO idea))
    The Green Monster
    K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
    Got him in '04.
    bald tire & borrowing parts

    80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
    Scarlet
    K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
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    • #47
      Oh yeah that valve is badly bent! I had one that was sticking itermittantly and it was not obviously bent like that one. You have the tool now and with the head off, it is an opportune time to lap all of the valves. A complete gasket/seal kit for the head should have everything you need to do that. Heck, you might even think about replacing the cam chain while you're at it.
      Skids (Sid Hansen)

      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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      • #48
        @natemoen, thanks, i would really appreciate it. its (i hope) the last piece of the puzzle to get my bike on the road. i'm getting tired of working on it!
        @skids, what do you mean by lapping all the valves? and the bike has less than 9k miles on it, is a cam chain replacement really necessary?
        @Glowe, thanks man! if i can't find one on here i'll definitely get one there. the cheapest one i found previously was $80 i could get a whole new head for a bit more from the scrapyard.
        1979 xs special, just finished the top end rebuild and then i still have lots of work.
        progress thus far...
        http://s1268.photobucket.com/albums/...t=IMAG0202.jpg

        "If it runs bad, it's usually the carbs. If the tires go flat, I suspect the carbs. If the wind blows the bike over, the carbs were probably to blame. If my wife yells at me about something, I tell her to talk to the carbs" -Incubus

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        • #49
          [QUOTE
          @skids, what do you mean by lapping all the valves? and the bike has less than 9k miles on it, is a cam chain replacement really necessary?
          [/QUOTE]

          Would NOT do either one, specially not any valve lapping!
          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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          • #50
            Sorry I didn't get around to digging through my valve pile. I should have one and will look tomorrow for sure. PM me your address and I will send it when I find it.
            Nathan
            KD9ARL

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            1978 XS1100E
            K&N Filter
            #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
            OEM Exhaust
            ATK Fork Brace
            LED Dash lights
            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

            Green Monster Coils
            SS Brake Lines
            Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

            In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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            • #51
              If Nate can not help with a bucket, I can as I have maybe a dozen here that will not be needed. Let me know.
              2-79 XS1100 SF
              2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
              80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
              Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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              • #52
                i don't need the bucket, i already have those. i need the actual valve
                this

                thanks though
                1979 xs special, just finished the top end rebuild and then i still have lots of work.
                progress thus far...
                http://s1268.photobucket.com/albums/...t=IMAG0202.jpg

                "If it runs bad, it's usually the carbs. If the tires go flat, I suspect the carbs. If the wind blows the bike over, the carbs were probably to blame. If my wife yells at me about something, I tell her to talk to the carbs" -Incubus

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                • #53
                  I may have a valve as well. I have an XS of parts here so I would need the measurements to compare so could send the right part. No guarantees but I might have that valve.
                  2-79 XS1100 SF
                  2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                  80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                  Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                  • #54
                    valve is approx. 95.5 mm long and 31.35 wide
                    1979 xs special, just finished the top end rebuild and then i still have lots of work.
                    progress thus far...
                    http://s1268.photobucket.com/albums/...t=IMAG0202.jpg

                    "If it runs bad, it's usually the carbs. If the tires go flat, I suspect the carbs. If the wind blows the bike over, the carbs were probably to blame. If my wife yells at me about something, I tell her to talk to the carbs" -Incubus

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by motoman View Post
                      [QUOTE
                      @skids, what do you mean by lapping all the valves? and the bike has less than 9k miles on it, is a cam chain replacement really necessary?
                      Would NOT do either one, specially not any valve lapping![/QUOTE]

                      I didn't realize this was a low milage engine. Yeah, you can forego the replacement of the cam chain! Well, you should at least check the other valves while the head is off. Check them to see how fast solvent leaks through the seated vlaves. As far as the new valve, I would lap that one. Lapping is done with compound, while turning the valve in the seat. Sure the valve is ground (or should be) but it needs to mate to the seat. I rarely disagree with Motoman, but I do in this case.
                      Skids (Sid Hansen)

                      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                      • #56
                        Looking at the condition of that "9,000 mile" valve, I would lap them myself. As Skids stated, it is a process of putting some "lapping" (grinding) compound on the valve seat, put your valve in bare, and put a lapping stick on the valve (basically a stick with a suction cup on the end) and manually twist the valve grinding the seat and valve face to match each other. IF there is carbon build up on the valve seat of the valve face it will help them seat better.
                        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                        Previously owned
                        93 GSX600F
                        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                        81 XS1100 Special
                        81 CB750 C
                        80 CB750 C
                        78 XS750

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                        • #57
                          Sent the valve out this afternoon.
                          Nathan
                          KD9ARL

                          μολὼν λαβέ

                          1978 XS1100E
                          K&N Filter
                          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                          OEM Exhaust
                          ATK Fork Brace
                          LED Dash lights
                          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                          Green Monster Coils
                          SS Brake Lines
                          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                          Theodore Roosevelt

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                          • #58
                            Thanks Nate!
                            1979 xs special, just finished the top end rebuild and then i still have lots of work.
                            progress thus far...
                            http://s1268.photobucket.com/albums/...t=IMAG0202.jpg

                            "If it runs bad, it's usually the carbs. If the tires go flat, I suspect the carbs. If the wind blows the bike over, the carbs were probably to blame. If my wife yells at me about something, I tell her to talk to the carbs" -Incubus

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