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  • #31
    Scuba

    Yep, if you got a scuba tank, 2600 psi at your service, might just turn your motor into a cannon
    Originally posted by ddragon63 View Post
    Either way I don't think I personally would want to run it after breaking it free. It's locked up for a reason. I personally would try compressed air first before laying a mass amount of pressure to it. Btw theres ways of getting compressed air sources a lot higher than 250 psi.
    Just trying to give a fella options...
    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
    1980 XS1100 Special
    1990 V Max
    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
    1974 CB750-Four



    Past/pres Car's
    1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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    • #32
      +1

      +1 to both of you guys, like I said earler, "IF" the bike was running when parked inside for 10 years, the motor is not rusted frozen. The only motors I have seen rust frozen are marine inbord boat motors that had the exaust heat exchangers rust through and then fill the jugs with salt water You may have been lied to, if it is seazed, it burned up with no oil in it and he filled it back up to sell it

      Originally posted by ddragon63 View Post
      +1 on what Steve is saying. My xs was parked for 7 years in a uninsulated wood shed in sw Washington... It ran when it was parked in there. I changed the oil, pull the plugs, sprayed some seamfoam deep creep in the holes, dropped a little oil on top of that to lube the cylinder. Hooked the jump box to it and it rolled right over. Put plugs in it added some seamfoam to the oil in the case added gas to tank and lit fire to it. Of course ymmv. I knew mine ran previous to storage cuz I rode it in there.
      1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
      1980 XS1100 Special
      1990 V Max
      1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
      1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
      1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
      1974 CB750-Four



      Past/pres Car's
      1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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      • #33
        Lmao... I was thinking nitrogen! Not sure is want to introduce compressed breathing air to on oily cylinder under pressure. It'll unstick the piston. But then you may be finding pieces of it for days! Oxygen+petroleum+pressure=combustion.

        I got a 6000 psi nitrogen bottle sitting here on the cylinder dock if you really need some pressure
        Don
        1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...

        2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come


        old:
        1989 kawi ex500
        1996 yzf-r6
        1999 yzf-r1
        2001 kawi zx-6r
        2000 Ducati 748
        2002 YZF-R1
        2005 V-Star 1100 Classic

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        • #34
          OK guys. I have a stuck one at the house. It's an XS650 but that shouldn't make a difference. I bought it in a junk yard for $30, locked up tight. I go home on the 4th. I'll try to make time to grease gun break it when I get home and tell you how easy it was.
          Marty (in Mississippi)
          XS1100SG
          XS650SK
          XS650SH
          XS650G
          XS6502F
          XS650E

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          • #35
            DING!! you got it!

            No battery yet, well the one on her is a gonner..just wanting to see if the one is as gummed together as the one carb was, kinda a set???


            Originally posted by Lonerider62 View Post
            Am I reading you correctly and you are trying to determine if your engine is frozen in a cylinder or two and trying to break it free?

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            • #36
              Different

              Thats a different animal,, ball bearings, not like the 1100's. If your motor is frozen, most likley its in the jugs as the bearing very rarly freeze on those. 1100's bearings can spin, causing rattle, then total failure, or, weild to the crank, causing a seized motor
              Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
              OK guys. I have a stuck one at the house. It's an XS650 but that shouldn't make a difference. I bought it in a junk yard for $30, locked up tight. I go home on the 4th. I'll try to make time to grease gun break it when I get home and tell you how easy it was.
              1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
              1980 XS1100 Special
              1990 V Max
              1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
              1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
              1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
              1974 CB750-Four



              Past/pres Car's
              1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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              • #37
                Na

                Na, scuba tanks are filled with compressed air, not O2, so it is safe, but 2600 psi will send the piston flying all by its self
                Originally posted by ddragon63 View Post
                Lmao... I was thinking nitrogen! Not sure is want to introduce compressed breathing air to on oily cylinder under pressure. It'll unstick the piston. But then you may be finding pieces of it for days! Oxygen+petroleum+pressure=combustion.

                I got a 6000 psi nitrogen bottle sitting here on the cylinder dock if you really need some pressure
                1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                1980 XS1100 Special
                1990 V Max
                1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                1974 CB750-Four



                Past/pres Car's
                1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post
                  Thats a different animal,, ball bearings, not like the 1100's. If your motor is frozen, most likley its in the jugs as the bearing very rarly freeze on those. 1100's bearings can spin, causing rattle, then total failure, or, weild to the crank, causing a seized motor
                  That would be my concern on a stuck motor that i have no real prior history on. Ran out of oil (due to various reasons too long to list) and the crank, bearings, and rods and or mains have joined in an unholy union..... which if that is the case you can put whatever pressure system you want to it and your gonna break or bend something. Take your pick of parts that will give first. Most liely blow your threaded pressure hose and plug threads straight @ you...

                  As my companies safety advisor I would like to take this moment to remind you to please have your safety glasses on while conducting this experiment
                  Don
                  1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...

                  2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come


                  old:
                  1989 kawi ex500
                  1996 yzf-r6
                  1999 yzf-r1
                  2001 kawi zx-6r
                  2000 Ducati 748
                  2002 YZF-R1
                  2005 V-Star 1100 Classic

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post
                    Na, scuba tanks are filled with compressed air, not O2, so it is safe, but 2600 psi will send the piston flying all by its self
                    If you wanna get technical scubas are filled with compressed breathing air. Which is "suppose" to contain as much o2 as the air out side we breath. Which I'm sure we all know how a diesel works... Air, pressure, oil, bang. Either way 2600 by its self will turn the rod into a question mark....
                    Don
                    1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...

                    2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come


                    old:
                    1989 kawi ex500
                    1996 yzf-r6
                    1999 yzf-r1
                    2001 kawi zx-6r
                    2000 Ducati 748
                    2002 YZF-R1
                    2005 V-Star 1100 Classic

                    Comment


                    • #40
                      Joke

                      It was a joke Dragon, I hope everyone knows better then to apply 2600 psi of anything to any piston in a cyl, thus the canon referance
                      Originally posted by ddragon63 View Post
                      If you wanna get technical scubas are filled with compressed breathing air. Which is "suppose" to contain as much o2 as the air out side we breath. Which I'm sure we all know how a diesel works... Air, pressure, oil, bang. Either way 2600 by its self will turn the rod into a question mark....
                      1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                      1980 XS1100 Special
                      1990 V Max
                      1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                      1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                      1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                      1974 CB750-Four



                      Past/pres Car's
                      1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post
                        It was a joke Dragon, I hope everyone knows better then to apply 2600 psi of anything to any piston in a cyl, thus the canon referance
                        If you did it right, a set of Wiseco pistons would just drop in without doing any of that pesky machine work.
                        -- Scott
                        _____

                        2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                        1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                        1979 XS1100F: parts
                        2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                        • #42
                          Broken pistons make good xmas gifts for smokers.
                          Don
                          1979 XS1100SF "Old Man" bought by my Dad brand new in 79, customized in 80 with Vetter, Standard tank, and touring seat. I inherited in 02 when Dad passed. Been riding it since 09. No resto, bike is a survivor...

                          2007 RoadStar 1700 Midnight Silverado "The Black Pearl" Cobra Slash-downs, K&N filter. More mods to come


                          old:
                          1989 kawi ex500
                          1996 yzf-r6
                          1999 yzf-r1
                          2001 kawi zx-6r
                          2000 Ducati 748
                          2002 YZF-R1
                          2005 V-Star 1100 Classic

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                          • #43
                            Have U tried disassembling the middle gear just to check if maybe this part has seized solid?
                            XS1100 3X0 '82 restomod, 2H9 '78 chain drive racer, 3H3 '79 customized.
                            MV Agusta Brutale 910R '06.
                            Triumph 1200 Speed Trophy '91, Triumph 1200 '93.
                            Z1 '73 restomod, Z1A '74 yellow/green, KZ900 A4 '76 green.
                            Yamaha MT-09 Tracer '15 grey.
                            Kawasaki Z1300 DFI '84 modified, red.

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                            • #44
                              Neutral

                              Should still turn over in neutral though
                              Originally posted by Mathh View Post
                              Have U tried disassembling the middle gear just to check if maybe this part has seized solid?
                              1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                              1980 XS1100 Special
                              1990 V Max
                              1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                              1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                              1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                              1974 CB750-Four



                              Past/pres Car's
                              1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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