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  • Removing The Octypus

    Does anyone have a link to a thread for removing and replacing the octypus entirely? Please let me know. Thanks Mooseman
    79 SF

  • #2
    What scoot do you have? It's a little different based on the model.
    1980G Standard, Restored
    Kerker 4 - 1
    850 Rear End Mod
    2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
    Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
    Automatic CCT
    1980GH Special, Restored
    Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
    '82 XJ1100 (Sold)
    Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.

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    • #3
      Only the Specials have the octy; the standards have that feature built into the petcocks.

      You need to block off the 'prime' outlet on your petcocks when removing the octy... some just connect the two petcocks together or put a short piece of hose on with a bolt 'plug'. For a bit more elegant solution, look here: http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32980

      Then simply connect the fuel line directly to the carbs...
      Last edited by crazy steve; 11-27-2011, 06:24 PM.
      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

      '78E original owner - resto project
      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
      '82 XJ rebuild project
      '80SG restified, red SOLD
      '79F parts...
      '81H more parts...

      Other current bikes:
      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
      Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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      • #4
        Steve,
        I beg to differ. I removed the octy from my G and J and had to connect vacuum lines from two of the intake manifolds to each of the petcocks, and then ran my fuel lines to the opposite side intakes of the carbs. This allowed me to install inline fuel filters without the risk of kinking the lines. I also have this setup on my J.
        1980G Standard, Restored
        Kerker 4 - 1
        850 Rear End Mod
        2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
        Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
        Automatic CCT
        1980GH Special, Restored
        Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
        '82 XJ1100 (Sold)
        Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.

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        • #5
          The XJ would have the octy, as it shared petcocks with all the Specials. But if your standard had one, it was installed by a PO. I suspect that somebody swapped carbs and didn't pull it off the carb bank....
          Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

          '78E original owner - resto project
          '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
          '82 XJ rebuild project
          '80SG restified, red SOLD
          '79F parts...
          '81H more parts...

          Other current bikes:
          '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
          '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
          '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
          Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
          Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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          • #6
            My G has those 'transitional' carbs where the pilot jet tubes are plugged with rubber stoppers. It was manufactured at the end of 1979 also.
            Don't know if that has any bearing on it. This bike was bone stock when I got it from a co-worker who was the original owner. It only had 14k miles on it.
            1980G Standard, Restored
            Kerker 4 - 1
            850 Rear End Mod
            2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
            Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
            Automatic CCT
            1980GH Special, Restored
            Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
            '82 XJ1100 (Sold)
            Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.

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            • #7
              You've got me curious... how was that plumbed? Were both petcocks and the octy connected to vacuum sources, or just the octy? If it was the latter, then the only way it would work would be if the petcocks were set on 'prime', but that defeats your 'reserve' function. If both, then you simply had two shut-off points.

              Somewhere along the line, somebody swapped carbs or made a point of installing that for whatever reason, unless somebody grabbed the wrong bits out of a bin on the production line and it made it past QC. Neither the manuals or the parts fiche show those on a standard, only the Specials and XJ.
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

              Other current bikes:
              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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              • #8
                I really don't remember that was over four years ago. But it's quite curious.
                1980G Standard, Restored
                Kerker 4 - 1
                850 Rear End Mod
                2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
                Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
                Automatic CCT
                1980GH Special, Restored
                Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
                '82 XJ1100 (Sold)
                Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cobia View Post
                  I really don't remember that was over four years ago. But it's quite curious.
                  Yes quite curios indeed since even the early 80 standards didn't have an octy as ALL standards have vacuum petcocks with the octy functionality built into the petcock removing any need for an octy. Even the later 80 carbs are basically the same as the early, they just don't have the cross passage or the plug, but they are identical otherwise.
                  Cy

                  1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                  Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                  Vetter Windjammer IV
                  Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                  OEM Luggage Rack
                  Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                  Spade Fuse Box
                  Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                  750 FD Mod
                  TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                  XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                  XJ1100 Shocks

                  I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                  • #10
                    Thread

                    Back on thread (and I get off thread more then most) If you have the octy, and are going to remove (which I don't recomend) it and you have the special style petcocks (no vacuum lines to them) Cap off the prim at the petcock with a line cap, $0.25 at any auto parts store (you wont need it as run / resurve become a prime) Next, run the two remaining lines tward the carbs two fuel input feeds. I would put a 4 way or two "T's" so both petcocks have the same fuel feed at all times JAT. This would also be a good time to install a couple of in line filters with all the extra room you have. Just make sure you turn off the fuel everytime you turn off the bike, the needles may work, and they may fail and poor gas in your oil

                    Originally posted by mooseman View Post
                    Does anyone have a link to a thread for removing and replacing the octypus entirely? Please let me know. Thanks Mooseman
                    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                    1980 XS1100 Special
                    1990 V Max
                    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                    1974 CB750-Four



                    Past/pres Car's
                    1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post
                      ..Cap off the prime at the petcock with a line cap, $0.25 at any auto parts store (you wont need it as run / resurve become a prime)..
                      The problem with that is the caps you can buy won't take exposure to raw fuel; several people have tried that and had them swell/leak. Those caps are vacuum caps, not for fuel lines. I used them on my conversion, but I sealed the prime outlets internally in the petcock so they aren't subjected to fuel. Strictly a trim item...
                      Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                      '78E original owner - resto project
                      '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                      '82 XJ rebuild project
                      '80SG restified, red SOLD
                      '79F parts...
                      '81H more parts...

                      Other current bikes:
                      '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                      '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                      '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                      Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                      Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                      • #12
                        I removed the octy and just used the tee fitting to run the main and the prime into the carbs with no problems. And plugged the vacuum with a hose and bolt. Love these bikes
                        Keep the shiny side up
                        1979 XS1100SF
                        Mac 4-1
                        Drilled airbox Uni filter
                        Vmax bars
                        Virago 1" shorter shocks
                        30K miles
                        http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...429_135845.jpg
                        1981XS1100SH
                        '80 G Forks and Triple Tree
                        '80 G tank
                        Mac Turnouts
                        Virago 1" shorter rear shocks
                        SH Headlight
                        http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...psd6adaae1.jpg
                        61 Wife
                        83 Son
                        86 Son
                        89 Daughter

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                        • #13
                          i bought fuel end caps, not vacuum caps, you are right, there is a diff. Still $0.25 each

                          Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                          The problem with that is the caps you can buy won't take exposure to raw fuel; several people have tried that and had them swell/leak. Those caps are vacuum caps, not for fuel lines. I used them on my conversion, but I sealed the prime outlets internally in the petcock so they aren't subjected to fuel. Strictly a trim item...
                          1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                          1980 XS1100 Special
                          1990 V Max
                          1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                          1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                          1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                          1974 CB750-Four



                          Past/pres Car's
                          1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post
                            i bought fuel end caps, not vacuum caps, you are right, there is a diff. Still $0.25 each
                            Got a part number? No one I've talked to knew of any such thing....
                            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                            '78E original owner - resto project
                            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                            '82 XJ rebuild project
                            '80SG restified, red SOLD
                            '79F parts...
                            '81H more parts...

                            Other current bikes:
                            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                            • #15
                              Please

                              PLEASE do your own resurch from now on, I am trying to turn over a new leaf and not get pissed off at challeges form others Merry Christmas
                              https://www.denniskirk.com/271589.sk...utm_medium=cse


                              Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                              Got a part number? No one I've talked to knew of any such thing....
                              1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                              1980 XS1100 Special
                              1990 V Max
                              1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                              1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                              1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                              1974 CB750-Four



                              Past/pres Car's
                              1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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