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    Can Cold Weather cause my engine to die if I dont keep gasing it? Its below 0 degrees Celcius and im using 20-50 motor oil. When I give her alot of gas she seems to run fine its just whenever Im in the middle of traffic and let off the throttle she wants to die. CARS IN FRONT OF ME CARS BEHIND ME, DANG!!!!
    '81 Yamama XS1100 5K7 German Model

    What's the difference between erotic and kinky?
    Erotic = using a feather
    Kinky = using the whole chicken

  • #2
    Cold Temperatures

    For my 79F it is recommended that a lighter oil (I believe 10W-40) be used below 40 degrees Farenheit.

    Also, at these lower temperatures, the pilot circuit could be running lean (colder air is denser air). Go somewhere there is little traffic. As you come to a stop, I would pull out the choke lever one notch and see if the bike runs better. This serves to enrichen the mixture. If it runs better then I would say that it definitely is running too lean. If I recall correctly, turning the pilot screws out enrichens the mixture of the pilot circuit. You could do a thread search to confirm this.

    Usually if you tinker with the settings on the carbs, you have to resync them.

    Good Luck . . . hope this helps!
    1979 F
    Mac 4-2 Exhaust
    T-Kat Fork Brace
    Spade Fuse Box Mod
    Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
    140.0 Main Jets
    45.0 Pilot Jets
    266 X-2 Needle Jets

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    • #3
      Extreme cold weather can keep an engine from reaching optimum operating temperature, and could therefore need a richer mix to keep running. Also having read your carb tuning problems threads, that until you get the engine and carbs well tuned, it can be hard for it to maintain a good idle even when the weather is warm! You may want to just turn up the idle speed screw a bit to keep it running a little faster when you release the throttle while you're out there in the cold air!

      T.C.
      T. C. Gresham
      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
      History shows again and again,
      How nature points out the folly of men!

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      • #4
        u could also try running a hotter range plug,
        try a bp5es.
        pete


        new owner of
        08 gen2 hayabusa


        former owner
        1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
        zrx carbs
        18mm float height
        145 main jets
        38 pilots
        slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
        fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

        [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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        • #5
          No, if your bike is dieing at idle, it is not the cold weather. Cold weather will require a longer warm up time with the choke on, but once at opperating temp, it will idle fine if all else is correct. Your carbs are causing the problem. I would make sure that the emulsion tubes are crystal clean, and the jets also. Next, I would set the floats to the higest spec. for your bike. Make "SURE" no fuel mix screw tip is broke off in the carb body, then start at 2 1/4 turns out, that is rich, but you can tune down and will help with warm up in your cold temp's. Sync the carbs with your gauge and the valves I told you about and set your idle at around 1200 RPM. If your carbs are realy clean (especialy the emulsion tubes) and you have good fuel flow to them (ie, no lines going down below the bowl hight then back up). After you have it idleing right you can turn the fuel mix screws in 1/4 turn each, then ride for a while and do it again till the idle drops slightly, then back out 1/8th turn, should be good



          Originally posted by anarchy18 View Post
          Can Cold Weather cause my engine to die if I dont keep gasing it? Its below 0 degrees Celcius and im using 20-50 motor oil. When I give her alot of gas she seems to run fine its just whenever Im in the middle of traffic and let off the throttle she wants to die. CARS IN FRONT OF ME CARS BEHIND ME, DANG!!!!
          1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
          1980 XS1100 Special
          1990 V Max
          1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
          1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
          1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
          1974 CB750-Four



          Past/pres Car's
          1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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          • #6
            Synch, adjust A/F mix screws and synch again.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by geobiker View Post
              For my 79F it is recommended that a lighter oil (I believe 10W-40) be used below 40 degrees Farenheit.

              Also, at these lower temperatures, the pilot circuit could be running lean (colder air is denser air). Go somewhere there is little traffic. As you come to a stop, I would pull out the choke lever one notch and see if the bike runs better. This serves to enrichen the mixture. If it runs better then I would say that it definitely is running too lean. If I recall correctly, turning the pilot screws out enrichens the mixture of the pilot circuit. You could do a thread search to confirm this.

              Usually if you tinker with the settings on the carbs, you have to resync them.

              Good Luck . . . hope this helps!
              Engaging the choke was the first thing I tried and almost choked on gas fumes and my eyes watered etc after that and it didnt really help her stay running any better either.
              '81 Yamama XS1100 5K7 German Model

              What's the difference between erotic and kinky?
              Erotic = using a feather
              Kinky = using the whole chicken

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                Extreme cold weather can keep an engine from reaching optimum operating temperature, and could therefore need a richer mix to keep running. Also having read your carb tuning problems threads, that until you get the engine and carbs well tuned, it can be hard for it to maintain a good idle even when the weather is warm! You may want to just turn up the idle speed screw a bit to keep it running a little faster when you release the throttle while you're out there in the cold air!

                T.C.

                ILL TRY THAT TC!!!! I just put that heavy oil in not too long ago and its not helping the problem im sure
                '81 Yamama XS1100 5K7 German Model

                What's the difference between erotic and kinky?
                Erotic = using a feather
                Kinky = using the whole chicken

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shacknasty View Post
                  Synch, adjust A/F mix screws and synch again.
                  You synch before u adjust and then synch again? Good to know Is the pilot and a/f screw the same thing? Can u give me a simple run down how to adjust on the XS1100?
                  '81 Yamama XS1100 5K7 German Model

                  What's the difference between erotic and kinky?
                  Erotic = using a feather
                  Kinky = using the whole chicken

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by petejw View Post
                    u could also try running a hotter range plug,
                    try a bp5es.
                    Never thought about HOTTER PLUGS for the winter I might try that also, YOU GUYS ARE JUST SO FULL OF IDEAS.....Thank You
                    '81 Yamama XS1100 5K7 German Model

                    What's the difference between erotic and kinky?
                    Erotic = using a feather
                    Kinky = using the whole chicken

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                    • #11
                      jat, our carbys are different on the sports bike
                      compared to the 81 us spec xs,
                      we have 40 pilots without bleed holes
                      and different emulsion tubes with adjustable needles,
                      what clip setting have u set the slides at?
                      pete


                      new owner of
                      08 gen2 hayabusa


                      former owner
                      1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
                      zrx carbs
                      18mm float height
                      145 main jets
                      38 pilots
                      slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
                      fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

                      [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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                      • #12
                        Mine have adjustable needles also79SF USA
                        Originally posted by petejw View Post
                        jat, our carbys are different on the sports bike
                        compared to the 81 us spec xs,
                        we have 40 pilots without bleed holes
                        and different emulsion tubes with adjustable needles,
                        what clip setting have u set the slides at?
                        1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                        1980 XS1100 Special
                        1990 V Max
                        1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                        1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                        1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                        1974 CB750-Four



                        Past/pres Car's
                        1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post
                          Mine have adjustable needles also79SF USA
                          Yes, but U.S. bikes after 79 don't have adjustable needles. 79 was the last year with adjustable needles in the U.S. at least in stock form. This is why the year matters, there are a LOT of differences between the different models and years, some minor and some pretty major. (more minor ones than major ones though)
                          Cy

                          1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                          Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                          Vetter Windjammer IV
                          Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                          OEM Luggage Rack
                          Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                          Spade Fuse Box
                          Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                          750 FD Mod
                          TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                          XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                          XJ1100 Shocks

                          I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                          • #14
                            Moron

                            You are so correct Sir, I am a Moron, how could I have missed that, of course the Year matters I only have one year now 1979 I apoligize for being so dumb I will stop trying to help others as it is clear I am stupid

                            Originally posted by cywelchjr View Post
                            Yes, but U.S. bikes after 79 don't have adjustable needles. 79 was the last year with adjustable needles in the U.S. at least in stock form. This is why the year matters, there are a LOT of differences between the different models and years, some minor and some pretty major. (more minor ones than major ones though)
                            1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                            1980 XS1100 Special
                            1990 V Max
                            1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                            1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                            1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                            1974 CB750-Four



                            Past/pres Car's
                            1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                            • #15
                              the carb bodies are the same for all the 81 models,
                              ours are just jetted differently.
                              pete


                              new owner of
                              08 gen2 hayabusa


                              former owner
                              1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
                              zrx carbs
                              18mm float height
                              145 main jets
                              38 pilots
                              slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
                              fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

                              [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

                              Comment

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