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  • #46
    Originally posted by 3Phase View Post
    If you've removed the gears from the camshafts, make sure the timing marks on the gears are aligned with the dots on the camshafts and not 180* out...

    Camshaft sprocket timing mark
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    ..."Cam sprockets go on with the embossed markings away from the mounting flange and the one with the bump goes toward the dot on the cam"
    I happened to notice those markings and realized their orientation relative to the cam dots before you mentioned it. Thanks for the tip though! Any idea what the torque value is for the sprocket bolts? I didnt read ahead in the manual yet to look for it, should be in there right?
    '79 XS11 F
    Stock except K&N

    '79 XS11 SF
    Stock, no title.

    '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
    GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

    "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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    • #47
      Cam sprocket bolts, 14.5 ft/lb.
      2H7 (79) owned since '89
      3H3 owned since '06

      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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      • #48
        Same as all the bolts, the torque spec is 1/4 turn before it breaks...


        14.5 ft. lbs. Wade................( according to the manual anyway)
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by BA80 View Post
          Same as all the bolts, the torque spec is 1/4 turn before it breaks...


          14.5 ft. lbs. Wade................( according to the manual anyway)
          Is there an echo in here? I guess I have a good reason to go buy an in/lb torque wrench now!
          '79 XS11 F
          Stock except K&N

          '79 XS11 SF
          Stock, no title.

          '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
          GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

          "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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          • #50
            Phil and I were posting over each other. His beat mine.
            Greg

            Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

            ― Albert Einstein

            80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

            The list changes.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by 3Phase View Post
              James: Aside from the amount of work and information that's been put into the benefiscal.co.uk parts lists, almost any picture on the planet is, of course, better than the ones printed in the Yamaha manual!
              Got ya! So they're photos in the Yamaha manual? I always thought they were engravings


              I checked my Haynes manual last night and there's no mention at all of those pointers on the cam sprockets. Presumably, that's why I wasn't looking for them when I did my shims. Hopefully, it doesn't matter. I did 90mph last night (what with that and not wearing a helmet the other night, I'm getting to be quite a tearaway). No problems with anything. No extra noise from the swapped CCT. Nothing from the cam sprockets, so I presume I either got them lined up by fluke, or those pointer things don't matter.
              XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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              • #52
                As far as I was able to see by moving the gears around in a spare-parts engine this afternoon: the pointers on the camshaft gears don't matter. They might be used in another engine but they're decorative in the XS11 engine.

                I believe the word 'engraving' is a very generous superlative when used to describe the rough caricatures of useful images in the Yamaha manual that implies a durability and clarity that is not present. Maybe someone who once saw a camera as a small child stayed for half an hour in a motel room in the same section of the city as the print shop. Maybe.
                -- Scott
                _____

                2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                1979 XS1100F: parts
                2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by 3Phase View Post
                  As far as I was able to see by moving the gears around in a spare-parts engine this afternoon: the pointers on the camshaft gears don't matter. They might be used in another engine but they're decorative in the XS11 engine.
                  That's reassuring. Like you say, Scott, they probably used those sprockets in another engine where the pointy bits do matter.
                  XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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                  • #54
                    Of course I dont know for sure, but if the holes in the sprockes line up with the holes in the cams regardless of the location of those marks on the sprockes,, and if there is an even number of teeth, it couldn't matter. Symetry is symetry!
                    Skids (Sid Hansen)

                    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                    • #55
                      Thanks for the tips guys. Got the bike all back together and went for a test ride late last night. No problems, started right up and idled smooth. Rode a few miles to the gas station and started seeing smoke off no.1 header. Took a look and oil was leaking out my valve cover. Noticed the corner cover bolt was half way out of the hole! Don't think I missed it when I was torquing them down, I think it must of loosened from heating up. I don't know what the torque is for those bolts but I used 7.5ft/lbs. Wiped down the oil and snugger it back up with my allens I cary and went home to re torque them. Found most of them loosened up some from expanding... rode around today and no more leaks, runs good. Once I get the aluminum half moon cam plugs made and ready to install Im adjusting valve clearance. Excited to see what kind of clearances it has and how much better it will run.
                      '79 XS11 F
                      Stock except K&N

                      '79 XS11 SF
                      Stock, no title.

                      '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                      GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                      "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                      • #56
                        CCT Yet again

                        SOLD! I have from ebay a Venture CCT and ready to install following all advise and precautions but I have one question that is bugging me, What is the tourque of the 19mm plug? If someone has a manual for the V-Max/Vanture and pass that on to me, or I am guessing 31.1 ft/lb. Thanks to all
                        1979 XS 1100 Special - Nicknamed "MONSTER"

                        ATC fuse box
                        Braded stainless brake lines
                        4/2 aftermarket exhaust(temp until stock is re-chromed )
                        V-Max auto cam chain adjuster
                        Brake light modulator with reserve brake light bypass
                        Vetter Windjammer III faring
                        Tkat Fork Brace

                        "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed; unlike the citizens of the countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms”
                        James Madison, The Federalists Papers

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by je2wheeler View Post
                          SOLD! I have from ebay a Venture CCT and ready to install following all advise and precautions but I have one question that is bugging me, What is the tourque of the 19mm plug? If someone has a manual for the V-Max/Vanture and pass that on to me, or I am guessing 31.1 ft/lb. Thanks to all
                          Cam chain tensioner cap bolt: 15ft/lb taken from the V-Max service manual.
                          2H7 (79) owned since '89
                          3H3 owned since '06

                          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by je2wheeler View Post
                            SOLD! I have from ebay a Venture CCT and ready to install following all advise and precautions but I have one question that is bugging me, What is the tourque of the 19mm plug? If someone has a manual for the V-Max/Vanture and pass that on to me, or I am guessing 31.1 ft/lb. Thanks to all
                            Lol since you asked I used 20 ft/lbs. I broke one of my tensioners b/c I over torqued it. good thing I had two. Whatever... Trying to get the 19mm bolt out they seemed like they had a million ft/lbs on them, what a pain to get off when the body isn't bolted to anything! With the copper crush washer and all I figured it needed a lot especially after the hard time it took to get it off. I first torqued to 20 then thought, meh thats not much, more is better! So I tried 50 ft/lbs definitely snapped the bugger lol.
                            Last edited by WMarshy; 07-01-2011, 11:06 PM.
                            '79 XS11 F
                            Stock except K&N

                            '79 XS11 SF
                            Stock, no title.

                            '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                            GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                            "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                              Cam chain tensioner cap bolt: 15ft/lb taken from the V-Max service manual.
                              Thank you, I'll start tomorrow, but I’ll sleep better tonight -
                              1979 XS 1100 Special - Nicknamed "MONSTER"

                              ATC fuse box
                              Braded stainless brake lines
                              4/2 aftermarket exhaust(temp until stock is re-chromed )
                              V-Max auto cam chain adjuster
                              Brake light modulator with reserve brake light bypass
                              Vetter Windjammer III faring
                              Tkat Fork Brace

                              "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed; unlike the citizens of the countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms”
                              James Madison, The Federalists Papers

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                              • #60
                                [QUOTE=WMarshy;332022]Lol since you asked I used 20 ft/lbs. I broke one of my tensioners b/c I over torqued it.

                                Thank you for the help, but it does look very much like a drain plug.
                                1979 XS 1100 Special - Nicknamed "MONSTER"

                                ATC fuse box
                                Braded stainless brake lines
                                4/2 aftermarket exhaust(temp until stock is re-chromed )
                                V-Max auto cam chain adjuster
                                Brake light modulator with reserve brake light bypass
                                Vetter Windjammer III faring
                                Tkat Fork Brace

                                "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed; unlike the citizens of the countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms”
                                James Madison, The Federalists Papers

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