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  • #16
    Hmmm. I found it in their website now (i swear I didn't before).
    Nathan
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    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by natemoen View Post
      Hmmm. I found it in their website now (i swear I didn't before).
      If you only type 3950 you won't find it PH3950 is what you are looking for
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      80SG Vetter bagger 1196 Wiseco big bore kit, Mega Cycle Cams, slotted cam gears, ported and flowed head, bronze intake seats, Dyno Jet kit, Dyno coils and Mikes XS air pods, Venture cam chain adjuster,Geezer's regulator, Clutch mod, Mac 4 into 1 with custom built and tuned baffle, Oil cooler,MikesXS emulators mod.
      Dyno tuned to 98 hp at the rear wheel.

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      • #18
        Yeah when I was looking before I tried all their prefix letters and never had anything come up. No one has had them either anyways.
        Nathan
        KD9ARL

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        1978 XS1100E
        K&N Filter
        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
        OEM Exhaust
        ATK Fork Brace
        LED Dash lights
        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

        Green Monster Coils
        SS Brake Lines
        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

        Theodore Roosevelt

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        • #19
          Originally posted by natemoen View Post
          No one has them. Even FRAM doesn't list them on their website.
          The tech tip and instructions I read state (I believe) the 6117 IIRC. I had no trouble finding that one as it's the filter used by the 98-07 (I believe) GL1500 of which there are thousands on the road. I think the one you mention is a wider auto filter which was mentioned as going into bypass at a lower pressure than the bike filter (all the MC filters I have see from gram start with 6 as the first digit).

          Ps: just checked, it's PH6017A that is mentioned. The one you reference is an auto filter used by the rivco adapter and the SOFCA.
          Last edited by cywelchjr; 01-25-2011, 06:26 PM.
          Cy

          1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
          Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
          Vetter Windjammer IV
          Vetter hard bags & Trunk
          OEM Luggage Rack
          Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
          Spade Fuse Box
          Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
          750 FD Mod
          TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
          XJ1100 Front Footpegs
          XJ1100 Shocks

          I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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          • #20
            If you get desperate there are many online stores that sell them .We pay 6 bucks for them up here. One example!!!
            http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FRM-PH3950/
            BDF Special
            80SG Vetter bagger 1196 Wiseco big bore kit, Mega Cycle Cams, slotted cam gears, ported and flowed head, bronze intake seats, Dyno Jet kit, Dyno coils and Mikes XS air pods, Venture cam chain adjuster,Geezer's regulator, Clutch mod, Mac 4 into 1 with custom built and tuned baffle, Oil cooler,MikesXS emulators mod.
            Dyno tuned to 98 hp at the rear wheel.

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            • #21
              filter

              The fram PH6017A can be had at WallyWorld if that is one of the options. Same as my ST uses and several others besides the Wing. Oem honda filter cost me bout $7 whenever I occassionally use an OEM one.
              Last edited by motoman; 01-25-2011, 06:52 PM.
              81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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              • #22
                Yeah, the 6017A according to the tech tip and instructions is the filter the adapter was made for. The other filter is for the one that replaces the oil cooler assy at the same time, has to do with how it mounts VS the one I have.

                An update, after two round trips yesterday. I checked after I pulled into the garage, and everything is clean and dry. So now it's wait a see how things are at the next oil change, assuming nothing fails in between, which I'm not expecting.

                I have to say, I'm really impressed with the quality look of the thing, it looks like something run off an assembly line, with the sole exception of not being anodized.
                Cy

                1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                Vetter Windjammer IV
                Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                OEM Luggage Rack
                Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                Spade Fuse Box
                Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                750 FD Mod
                TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                XJ1100 Shocks

                I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                • #23
                  Hey there Nate/Cy,

                  Nate has the SOF"C"A, and so needs the larger/wider designed 3950 or equivalent type filter, vs. the smaller diameter 6017 for the SOFA.

                  I believe it was Toolmaker Tim that found out that the Fram 6607 will also fit the S, is a bit shorter to allow more clearance but has the same ID for the oil ring seal...which is one of the important parameters for finding one to fit. The oil supply holes are just inside the 2.4" diameter zone, so the Oring needs to be very close to that zone.
                  **Just checked Fram, the 6607 has an ID for the oil seal ring of 2.27", a little bit shy of the 2.4", however I've tried to machine that opening a bit closer to the nut, and it might be a little smaller in diameter on your plate, you may need to take a ruler/caliper and check it's position and relative diameter ring size to see if the 6607 would extend beyond the opening without covering/closing or restricting it!?

                  The other parameter is the 20mm x 1.5 pitch threading.

                  I didn't actually design the SOFCA around the filter, but found a filter that would allow the design of the SOFCA to work with it's larger/wider securing nut.

                  Cy, glad to hear that you've had a successful install so far.

                  I've had several inquiries regarding both items, and I'm planning on putting more into production, once the garage THAWS out a little more!!

                  T.C.

                  PS, go to this link:
                  http://www.framcatalog.com/Part.aspx...*3950*&em=True
                  Then click on the PH3950, and then at the bottom you will see a very long list of COMPETITOR's FILTERS Cross Referrence...should help you find one in a brand close to you!



                  Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                  So yeah...how's the SOFA performing today?


                  I have a SOFCA that I am going to be putting on when I get things put back together. Having a little trouble finding a filter for it since it seems no one makes the filter TC original designed it around.
                  T. C. Gresham
                  81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                  79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
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                  • #24
                    So your saying that the 6607 MIGHT work for the SOFCA?
                    Nathan
                    KD9ARL

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                    1978 XS1100E
                    K&N Filter
                    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                    OEM Exhaust
                    ATK Fork Brace
                    LED Dash lights
                    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                    Green Monster Coils
                    SS Brake Lines
                    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                    Theodore Roosevelt

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                      Hey there Nate/Cy,

                      Nate has the SOF"C"A, and so needs the larger/wider designed 3950 or equivalent type filter, vs. the smaller diameter 6017 for the SOFA.
                      Now see what happens when you miss ONE little character in an entire message?

                      Here I even looked it up and all, and didn't catch that as I was saying that filter was the right one for the SOF*C*A that it was that device he has. So I guess Nate can slap me around for stupid for a while now (I'm sure he's gonna have fun with it).

                      PS, the new design of the SOFA sure looks like it's a good bit sturdier as comes to applying the pressure of the center out to the edges being as it looks meatier than the pictures of the original unit. Any feedback on if that made failed installs any less likely?
                      Cy

                      1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                      Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                      Vetter Windjammer IV
                      Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                      OEM Luggage Rack
                      Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                      Spade Fuse Box
                      Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                      750 FD Mod
                      TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                      XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                      XJ1100 Shocks

                      I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by cywelchjr View Post
                        Now see what happens when you miss ONE little character in an entire message?

                        Here I even looked it up and all, and didn't catch that as I was saying that filter was the right one for the SOF*C*A that it was that device he has. So I guess Nate can slap me around for stupid for a while now (I'm sure he's gonna have fun with it).

                        PS, the new design of the SOFA sure looks like it's a good bit sturdier as comes to applying the pressure of the center out to the edges being as it looks meatier than the pictures of the original unit. Any feedback on if that made failed installs any less likely?
                        I have left it alone this long (i did kinda hijack your thread anyways). I will save the barrage of insults for another time and another place....
                        Nathan
                        KD9ARL

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                        1978 XS1100E
                        K&N Filter
                        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                        OEM Exhaust
                        ATK Fork Brace
                        LED Dash lights
                        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                        Green Monster Coils
                        SS Brake Lines
                        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                        Theodore Roosevelt

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                        • #27
                          What is exactly a SOFCA other than it looks to be a spin on filter converson, and what does it look like?
                          '79 XS11SF

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                          • #28
                            http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14704

                            http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5095
                            2H7 (79) owned since '89
                            3H3 owned since '06

                            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                            • #29
                              thanks phil may be a thought to do on mine later on but I don't find it all that messy or hard to take off. Filters are a little expensive at $10.00 for the fram.
                              '79 XS11SF

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by trdriver71 View Post
                                thanks phil may be a thought to do on mine later on but I don't find it all that messy or hard to take off. Filters are a little expensive at $10.00 for the fram.
                                There's the convience of being able to walk into any parts supller and buy an oil filter when you do this mod. Messy is one of the reasons I did it and I find oil changes are faster and easier. A Fram PH3950 or the Canadian Tire cross reference can be had for around $6.00.
                                Like I have mentioned before I have been able to find Quaker State oil on sale with a free Fram oil filter for $14.99 for 5 litres at Canadian Tire here in Canada. So it's also cheaper to do oil changes with this mod too.
                                BDF Special
                                80SG Vetter bagger 1196 Wiseco big bore kit, Mega Cycle Cams, slotted cam gears, ported and flowed head, bronze intake seats, Dyno Jet kit, Dyno coils and Mikes XS air pods, Venture cam chain adjuster,Geezer's regulator, Clutch mod, Mac 4 into 1 with custom built and tuned baffle, Oil cooler,MikesXS emulators mod.
                                Dyno tuned to 98 hp at the rear wheel.

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