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  • Front Master Cylinder Problems

    When trying to remove the cover from the master cylinder on my '78 XS11 the brass inserts for the threads came out. Has anyone ever had this happen before and what did you do or what do you recommend? Thanks
    Nathan
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  • #2
    Can you remove them from the screws and re-use them? Maybe a tiny dab of Gorilla glue on it will hold it in?
    1980 XS850SG - Sold
    1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
    Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
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    • #3
      I have all of the screws off except one of them that I may have to drill out of the insert. I was sort of thinking JB weld to put them back in but I just wanted to see if anyone else has had this problem and if so what they did.
      Nathan
      KD9ARL

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      1978 XS1100E
      K&N Filter
      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
      OEM Exhaust
      ATK Fork Brace
      LED Dash lights
      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

      Green Monster Coils
      SS Brake Lines
      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

      In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

      Theodore Roosevelt

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      • #4
        Strange, but on my '79 front M/C the screws go all the way through holes that are molded into the corners of the reservoir and thread into the M/C body. The rear does have the brass inserts though.

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        • #5
          I have a 78 xs that I will be parting out soon. If you looking to replace the master cylinder instead of trying to repair it, send me a PM and let me know.
          Thanks
          1980 xs1100g mostly. "Adrenalize - the Yamaha I always wanted to be able to order"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by randy View Post
            Strange, but on my '79 front M/C the screws go all the way through holes that are molded into the corners of the reservoir and thread into the M/C body. The rear does have the brass inserts though.
            You have a Special master; the Standard reservoir looks the same but has the brass inserts and 'clamps' to the MC body internally.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
              You have a Special master;
              Kinda sounds a bit BDSM to me
              1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
              2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by b.walker5 View Post
                Kinda sounds a bit BDSM to me

                WHAT?

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                • #9
                  Lol.

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDSM
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                  • #10
                    I guess I will rough in holes up and glue the inserts in tomorrow night then. I wish I had a Special MC, that would make this much easier!
                    Nathan
                    KD9ARL

                    μολὼν λαβέ

                    1978 XS1100E
                    K&N Filter
                    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                    OEM Exhaust
                    ATK Fork Brace
                    LED Dash lights
                    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                    Green Monster Coils
                    SS Brake Lines
                    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                    Theodore Roosevelt

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                      You have a Special master
                      Ahh, but don't we all?! That 2-wheeled monster that calls to us from the driveway!

                      Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                      I wish I had a Special MC, that would make this much easier!
                      That's one thing I really like about the LH. The whole MC is solid metal, with a metal lid that screws on. No plastic reservoirs to deal with (front OR rear).
                      Last edited by CatatonicBug; 05-03-2010, 09:47 PM.
                      1980 XS850SG - Sold
                      1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                      Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                      Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                      Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                      -H. Ford

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                      • #12
                        That's one thing I really like about the LH. The whole MC is solid metal, with a metal lid that screws on. No plastic reservoirs to deal with (front OR rear).[/QUOTE]

                        Would it be possible to change over to a solid metal MC?
                        Nathan
                        KD9ARL

                        μολὼν λαβέ

                        1978 XS1100E
                        K&N Filter
                        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                        OEM Exhaust
                        ATK Fork Brace
                        LED Dash lights
                        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                        Green Monster Coils
                        SS Brake Lines
                        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                        Theodore Roosevelt

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                        • #13
                          I usually use red loctite bearing set that will hold inserts. It is heat release.
                          "We are often so caught up in our destination that we forget to appreciate the journey." "

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                            Would it be possible to change over to a solid metal MC?
                            Well, on the LH, the front MC only powers the front RIGHT caliper. The left is controlled by the rear MC. I would not trust the size of the LH MC to control 2 calipers.
                            1980 XS850SG - Sold
                            1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                            Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                            Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                            Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                            -H. Ford

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                            • #15
                              You have a Special master; the Standard reservoir looks the same but has the brass inserts and 'clamps' to the MC body internally.
                              Umm....No, I have a Standard Master. The Special has that radical angle thing goin on...

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