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I think the '79 was a "taller" seal than the newer ones. ID X OD X Height, with the Height being about 2mm taller. a spacer of some kind will take care of any problems.
I think you're right about them being taller. I got my George seals in the mail, they're not tall enough. Getting discouraged here. I'm going to dive in and pop the 79 seal out. Maybe something will make sense.
Crisis averted. I think. Apparently there is another rubber piece underneath the seal of a 79 special, and that takes up the extra space. I know I'm not gonna risk taking it out and damaging it, I'll clean out the inner area with it assembled. You can see it in this pic. I'd like to take it out just so there would be a clear pic for future reference on this site, but its too risky.
The new seal appears to be the same as what came out:
Well, at least the dust seal will cover the gouge marks from the 'ham-fisted' old seal removal.
81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.
So just to remind anyone (myself) , the part number above (51490 GBF 831) is Honda and for one seal only . Included is the honda CR80 dust cover .
I just ordered one thinking I was getting two seals bit I was mistaken .
This is for an XJ1100 .
XJ1100K
Avon rubber
MikesXS black coils
Iridium plugs w/ 1k caps
MikesXS front master
Paragon SS brake lines (unlinked)
Loud Horns (Stebel/Fiamm)
Progressive fork springs
CIBIE headlight reflector
YICS Eliminator
Briggs, any idea how tall that lower spacer is? That looks like it was put there in place of the flimsy crinkle cut spacer that was there from the factory. There might be numbers on it too. I have made them out of PVC pipe too.
I'd say it was right around 1/8 inch tall. As you see in the pic, there is still the thin metal spacer underneath.
The rubber part you see didn't move or fit loose, but it didn't appear that any part of the circumference actually touched the wall of the lower, so I suspect it was fastened to that thin metal spacer below it. Also, since the rubber part didn't touch the edge of the bore, I suspect that the bottom outer edge of the seal partially slid over this rubber spacer.
If that doesn't make sense, I can try to explain differently.
Please post the pics of your shinier lowers. That way you can prove to everyone you're the better craftsman and maintainer.
Can't beat that for polished!
No offense intended, but your 'before' and 'after' pics of seal removal were a 'given'.......couldn't resist.
81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.
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