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  • #16
    Okay... What sort of switch is it? Has anyone opened it up. Looking at the wiring diagram I can see it's a NO switch that simply shorts the ignition module to earth, hence the reason the bike will run without it, but what does it consist of? Is it a mercury type device, or a simple rolling brass ball? or some other type of gravity switch? Mercury switches, unless broken are virtually bullet proof and most other gravity switches are fairly simple devices that should easily be fixed if not working.
    1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
    2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

    Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

    "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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    • #17
      60 Degrees of Separation

      Brian, inside the tipover switch is a U-shaped, non-conducting bolt with a heavy metal ring over it.

      When the bike is upright the metal ring rests at the bottom of the "U" and doesn't touch any contacts.

      When the bike tips over or leans more than 60 degrees the metal ring slides along one leg of the "U" and grounds the ignition circuit, killing the engine.


      Regards,

      Scott
      -- Scott
      _____

      2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
      1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
      1979 XS1100F: parts
      2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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      • #18
        Okay, thanks Scott, it's sound like a variation on a simple rolling ball gravity switch and should be simple to fix. Most problems with this type are corroded contacts or stuck "balls". It's probably easier to disconnect than fix but if the safety angle is important then fixing it should'nt present any problems.
        1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
        2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

        Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

        "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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        • #19
          Easier to photograph than explain

          The Tipover Switch

          Exterior of switch with upright position marked


          Interior of switch in upright position: there is no contact anywhere


          Interior of switch in tipped position: metal ring shorts contacts and grounds ignition



          Regards,

          Scott
          -- Scott
          _____

          2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
          1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
          1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
          1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
          1979 XS1100F: parts
          2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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          • #20
            Doesnt get much simpler than that... Not much to go wrong there.
            1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
            2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

            Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

            "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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            • #21
              I don't even have one anymore.I saw one on e-bay the other day.Maybe i will pick one up.
              1980 XS1100 SG
              Inline fuel filters
              New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
              160 mph speedometer mod
              Kerker Exhaust
              xschop K & N air filter setup
              Dynojet Recalibration kit
              1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
              1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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              • #22
                I found one on e-bay.
                1980 XS1100 SG
                Inline fuel filters
                New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                160 mph speedometer mod
                Kerker Exhaust
                xschop K & N air filter setup
                Dynojet Recalibration kit
                1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                • #23
                  I think it is a good feature. If it is missing on your bike or not functioning, please find a replacement. I dumpt my bike with the wife on board last year. My bike killed as designed. Could have been a problem had it not! I like this feature and it doesn't deminish man-hair to say so!

                  Deny
                  1978 XS1100E - The TimeMachine
                  1980 XS850 Special - Little Mo

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                  • #24
                    Won my bid on e-bay for this part.Brand new-old stock,never used.
                    1980 XS1100 SG
                    Inline fuel filters
                    New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                    160 mph speedometer mod
                    Kerker Exhaust
                    xschop K & N air filter setup
                    Dynojet Recalibration kit
                    1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                    1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                    • #25
                      I have lots of those tipover switches in the parts pile if anyone ever needs one, thanx andreas

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DenyP View Post
                        I think it is a good feature. If it is missing on your bike or not functioning, please find a replacement. I dumpt my bike with the wife on board last year. My bike killed as designed. Could have been a problem had it not! I like this feature and it doesn't deminish man-hair to say so!
                        My XS's tipover switch works fine so far and I don't plan to remove it. In fact, I wish I'd had one twenty-five years ago on my KZ when it tried to crawl up my leg and eat my knee after a crash on Pacheco Pass. I got gnaw marks on my leg and a holy knee and I don't need The Weather Channel.


                        Regards,

                        Scott
                        -- Scott
                        _____

                        2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                        1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                        1979 XS1100F: parts
                        2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                        • #27
                          Wish i had one on my 77 RM250 years ago.
                          Ok, had no kill switch either. Had to stall the bike to shut it off.
                          I was riding in the coulee's here and my throttle cable broke and jammed my carb wide open in third gear.
                          No way to shut it off, rear brake was non existent.
                          I rode it into the ground, literally.
                          Bike took off, i grabbed a handfull of front brake, went about 200ft before jumping onto a gravel road.
                          Once my front wheel got airborne the brake locked it up, once it touched ground, so did i with the bike on top of me trying to do Mach 2.
                          A friend saw what happened and came to my rescue. Rear wheel spinning wildly above my thigh. He pulled the plug wire off to kill it.
                          Thank gawd.
                          Towed me and my bike home with a peice of barbed wire tied to the back of his Husquavarna and to the handle bar of my RM.

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                          • #28
                            I know mine works fine. I tested it when I dropped it in the parking lot. Engine went right off. Kind of an embarrassing way to test it, but certainly affective (also affective at demonstrating the non-gas resistance of fresh paint )
                            Cy

                            1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                            Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                            Vetter Windjammer IV
                            Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                            OEM Luggage Rack
                            Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                            Spade Fuse Box
                            Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                            750 FD Mod
                            TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                            XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                            XJ1100 Shocks

                            I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                            • #29
                              just unplug it and throw it a way. bike shutting off if you dump it will be the least of your problems.
                              82 xj1100j
                              4-1 header
                              k&n air pods
                              accel coils
                              progressive rear shocks
                              dyno jet kit
                              79 xs1100es (love of my life) passed away
                              __________________________
                              fast is never fast enough

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                              • #30
                                Spoken like someone who has no concept of what 100hp can do to you when your pinned under that rear wheel.
                                Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                                '05 ST1300
                                '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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