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  • chopper
    Truly XSive
    • Nov 2002
    • 167
    • scotland

    #16
    nice work on both sets of mounts guys
    mick
    xs1.1s(x2)
    gsxr1100(1127)
    gsx1100g(x2)
    trophy900
    bonneville750

    http://www.tonyfoale.com/

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    • Pat Kelly
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Jul 2002
      • 3046
      • Golden Valley, AZ

      #17
      If I was to use poly bushings I would use a sleeve similar to our shock mounts. Most poly bushing for suspension use have these sleeves. I used to sell 4 x 4 parts.
      Pat Kelly
      <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

      1978 XS1100E (The Force)
      1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
      2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
      1999 Suburban (The Ship)
      1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
      1968 F100 (Valentine)

      "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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      • mason79
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Mar 2006
        • 1351
        • los angeles, ca

        #18
        there a pruduct the used for vintage mustang suspensions, from global west, i think it's called derin white and hard as heck on the durometer, may not need a sleeve.
        "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
        History
        85 Yamaha FJ 1100
        79 yamaha xs1100f
        03 honda cbr 600 f4
        91 yamaha fzr 600
        84 yamaha fj 1100
        82 yamaha seca 750
        87 yamaha fazer
        86 yamaha maxim x
        82 yamaha vision
        78 yamaha rd 400

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        • 79XS11F
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Jul 2006
          • 3563
          • Ottawa, Ont. Canada

          #19
          Re: poly

          Originally posted by xschop
          I saw those too (very nice work). I made a rear bottom set (solid)for my latest project to keep the sprocket steady in relation to the frame. Question, why didn't you extend the poly all the way to the end of the inner metal mount?

          The Poly part likely matches the engines mount point width. No real sense in having the extra doing nothing ... right.
          Rob
          KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

          1978 XS1100E Modified
          1978 XS500E
          1979 XS1100F Restored
          1980 XS1100 SG
          1981 Suzuki GS1100
          1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
          1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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          • Brian_D
            XStremely XSive
            • Oct 2003
            • 355
            • Gardner, KS

            #20
            TC,
            will this get added to the CUSTOM PARTS/SERVICES By MEMBERS sticky in the Buy, Sell, Trade Forumn?

            Chop,
            will pm soon. want 1 set for my 79F project bike. after that is running, will want a 2nd set for my 81LH.

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            • concours
              XSive
              • Mar 2007
              • 43
              • Kensington, NH USA

              #21
              Originally posted by HobbyMan
              Why did yamaha use rubber to begin with?


              VIBRATION ISOLATION....... I'm changing my '05 Royal Star over to rubber mounts FROM alloy bushings....

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              • xschop
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Feb 2006
                • 1794
                • oklahoma city

                #22
                2 words

                v-twin......our xs11's won't vibrate you to death....the solid mounts will stiffen up the xs11's frame and the big difference is when you are throttling it in a corner....I thought the fork brace was a great improvement, then I added a set of these....
                MDRNF
                79F.....Not Stock
                80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                • concours
                  XSive
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 43
                  • Kensington, NH USA

                  #23
                  Re: 2 words

                  Originally posted by xschop
                  v-twin......our xs11's won't vibrate you to death....the solid mounts will stiffen up the xs11's frame and the big difference is when you are throttling it in a corner....I thought the fork brace was a great improvement, then I added a set of these....

                  LOL, it's a VEE-FOUR. (descendant of the V-max/Venture) and it is very smooth. ALL engines buzz some and my worn out old wrists can't take it.

                  What fork brace do you have? Christopher Chassis Products made a nice chrome molly one. I had them ladder up my swing arm too.

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                  • xschop
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1794
                    • oklahoma city

                    #24
                    sorry

                    my goof, I rode a vmax couple months ago and it wasn't as smooth as the xs11, but it was definitly smoother than a v-twin....
                    MDRNF
                    79F.....Not Stock
                    80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                    • AlanB
                      XSive Maximus
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 705
                      • Scotland

                      #25
                      Hi XSchop,
                      I started with a set of pre-made suspension bushes for a car, which already had the correct inside and outside diameters, so the length was already set. I only thinned the "brim" part of the top-hat bush.

                      If I could have found the right material I would have made the bushes the same length as the mounts.

                      However, they work well!

                      AlanB
                      If it ain't broke, modify it!

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                      • TopCatGr58
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 12650
                        • Portsmouth, Va.

                        #26
                        Hey Alan,

                        I was going to ask you to give us the type of car, but then realized you're "over there", our luck would be some exotic make/model we don't have over here anyways!?
                        T.C.
                        T. C. Gresham
                        81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                        79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                        History shows again and again,
                        How nature points out the folly of men!

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                        • AlanB
                          XSive Maximus
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 705
                          • Scotland

                          #27
                          Hi T.C.
                          The bushes are made by "Powerflex". They do a big range of Specific Fit bushes, But the ones I used were from their range of "Universals" designed to be modded for unusual vehicles. They go up in (I think) 2mm steps, and come with an overlength (60mm?) centre bush.
                          So they are not meant for anything specific!

                          The centre bushes were made up by a local engineer, and the Poly bushes got the "brim" thinned a little. I also upped the size of the bolts which hold the front mounts to the frame from 8mm to 10.

                          AlanB
                          If it ain't broke, modify it!

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                          • xschop
                            XS-XJ Guru
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1794
                            • oklahoma city

                            #28
                            material

                            these will be made from t6061 and have a tolerance +3- thousanths...just sent these out to 79XS11F....will ship these (t6061) anywhere in U.S. for $75 and need 10 days lead time...just PM me....chop

                            MDRNF
                            79F.....Not Stock
                            80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                            • 79XS11F
                              XS-XJ Super Guru
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 3563
                              • Ottawa, Ont. Canada

                              #29
                              WOW ... I received my solid alloy engine mounts yesterday and I must tell you ... Theses babies are NICE and very well made.
                              Thanks a bunch Xchop
                              Rob
                              KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                              1978 XS1100E Modified
                              1978 XS500E
                              1979 XS1100F Restored
                              1980 XS1100 SG
                              1981 Suzuki GS1100
                              1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                              1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                              • TomB
                                XSive Maximus
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 967
                                • Cumbria, UK

                                #30
                                Question, why didn't you extend the poly all the way to the end of the inner metal mount?
                                Another reason for not extending the rubber the full length of the inner bush is coz the tube spacer has locating pieces tacked on that locate over the inner bush.

                                i think it's called derin white and hard as heck on the durometer, may not need a sleeve.
                                We use rock hard plastics where I work (pharmaceutical industry) and have to constantly re-torque the bolts down on it because it creeps like crazy. I really would recommend using steel insert bushes.

                                Tom
                                Tom
                                1982 5K7 Sport, restored to original from a wreck
                                1978 2H9 (E), my original XS11, mostly original
                                1980 2H9 monoshocked (avatar pic)http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...psf30aa1c8.jpg
                                1982 XJ1100, waiting resto to original

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