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  • #31
    Thank you sir,
    You are a scholar and a gentleman(your the man)
    "Beware of any man that owns a pig farm"
    "Hence the meaning of the Saying,.. As greedy as a pig"
    79 XS1100 modified standard
    Chain Drive, Monoshock,extendend hand built swingarm, 200 rear
    pod filters,150 mains,45 pilots
    straight pipe 4-2 exhaust
    new to me 05 Kawasaki zxr12r man does she fly
    Owned 83 Honda V65 Magna
    Owned 02 Vstar 650 classic
    owned 85 Honda Shadow VT 700C

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    • #32
      Was wondering if you knew why Yamaha used the style of bearing they did for the swingarm pivot point? (conical?)and not a regular style ball bearing. I ask because I am going to fabricate a custom swing arm and was planning to use regular style bearings or maybe even bushings.
      "Beware of any man that owns a pig farm"
      "Hence the meaning of the Saying,.. As greedy as a pig"
      79 XS1100 modified standard
      Chain Drive, Monoshock,extendend hand built swingarm, 200 rear
      pod filters,150 mains,45 pilots
      straight pipe 4-2 exhaust
      new to me 05 Kawasaki zxr12r man does she fly
      Owned 83 Honda V65 Magna
      Owned 02 Vstar 650 classic
      owned 85 Honda Shadow VT 700C

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      • #33
        Possibly for centering the swingarm with the least amout of friction. Also to allow for preload, maybe related to it being shaft-drive?
        Just musing here.
        Pat Kelly
        <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

        1978 XS1100E (The Force)
        1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
        2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
        1999 Suburban (The Ship)
        1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
        1968 F100 (Valentine)

        "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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        • #34
          Well I just got off the phone with a tech support guy for sprocket specialists.com and I believe we may have found a 13 and/or 14 tooth sprocket to fit our machines. It is a replacement for a 66-69 Honda CB 77. I just got done ordering one for 25.00 and will let ya know if it will work or not. The part # for them is 506-13 if you want to take a look.
          Have a good day,
          Steve
          "Beware of any man that owns a pig farm"
          "Hence the meaning of the Saying,.. As greedy as a pig"
          79 XS1100 modified standard
          Chain Drive, Monoshock,extendend hand built swingarm, 200 rear
          pod filters,150 mains,45 pilots
          straight pipe 4-2 exhaust
          new to me 05 Kawasaki zxr12r man does she fly
          Owned 83 Honda V65 Magna
          Owned 02 Vstar 650 classic
          owned 85 Honda Shadow VT 700C

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          • #35
            Audi, brilliant detective work! Those C77 front sprockets sound like they're compatible, here's a quote from a webpage

            - Sprocket Specialists produces high quality replacement sprockets for most make and model machines. Case hardened and precision cut for excellent fit and finish.

            Fits: Honda CB75 Hawk 1964 to 1966 CB77 1966 to 1969 CL77 1966 to 1968 also fits Yamaha TX/XS650 upto 1983 and TX750A 1973 to 1974

            SS # 506 13 TOOTH Front Sprocket 530 Chain size

            Here's a pic of the C77 pattern, and it sure looks the same as the XS




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            • #36
              PS the bearing in question is a side thrust bearing that handles the sideways force coming from the right-angle bevel, only needed if running the shaftdrive, there's no torque reaction with a sprocket so a 'normal' bearing does the trick.

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              • #37
                I've ordered 506 countershaft sprockets from Sprocket Specialists for my XS650 (all models) in 520 or 530 chain. I use 520 X-ring by D.I.D. They list 13T to 18T chromloly steel. On page 52 of my catalog.
                Cheers, 50gary

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 50gary
                  I've ordered 506 countershaft sprockets from Sprocket Specialists for my XS650 (all models) in 520 or 530 chain. I use 520 X-ring by D.I.D. They list 13T to 18T chromloly steel. On page 52 of my catalog.
                  Cheers, 50gary
                  That's a lot of sprockets
                  Pat Kelly
                  <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

                  1978 XS1100E (The Force)
                  1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
                  2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
                  1999 Suburban (The Ship)
                  1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
                  1968 F100 (Valentine)

                  "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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                  • #39
                    Yeah I've got 4 of them and I thought that was a lot! Looks like "Sprocket Specialists' are about the only manufacturer to supply those XS650/C77 sprockets smaller than the usual stock 16-17 tooth
                    http://www.sprocketspecialists.com/S...?txtSearch=506

                    Good to know I won't have to resort to those rip-off machinists again, although a US$25 sprocket will probably still cost 50$NZ down here.
                    Last edited by pggg; 01-06-2007, 02:48 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Hey pggg, if you think it would be cheaper for me to purchase them, then mail them to you I could do that. If you need any?
                      "Beware of any man that owns a pig farm"
                      "Hence the meaning of the Saying,.. As greedy as a pig"
                      79 XS1100 modified standard
                      Chain Drive, Monoshock,extendend hand built swingarm, 200 rear
                      pod filters,150 mains,45 pilots
                      straight pipe 4-2 exhaust
                      new to me 05 Kawasaki zxr12r man does she fly
                      Owned 83 Honda V65 Magna
                      Owned 02 Vstar 650 classic
                      owned 85 Honda Shadow VT 700C

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                      • #41
                        Hey Cheers Audi, actually I've got enough sprockets to last for a few more years yet, but thanks for the offer .

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                        • #42
                          IT fits, it fits, LIKE A GLOVE.
                          hey PGGG,
                          How did you get the holes lined up on the plate for the extended bolts. I have cut my housing, And traced the gasket on a piece of metal but cant figure out how to precisely figure out where to drill the holes for the outer bearing housing. I am sure they need to be perfect to keep the shaft straight.
                          Thanks
                          "Beware of any man that owns a pig farm"
                          "Hence the meaning of the Saying,.. As greedy as a pig"
                          79 XS1100 modified standard
                          Chain Drive, Monoshock,extendend hand built swingarm, 200 rear
                          pod filters,150 mains,45 pilots
                          straight pipe 4-2 exhaust
                          new to me 05 Kawasaki zxr12r man does she fly
                          Owned 83 Honda V65 Magna
                          Owned 02 Vstar 650 classic
                          owned 85 Honda Shadow VT 700C

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                          • #43
                            Matching holes to copy to a steel plate, the holes in the gasket give 4 of them, then a matter of positioning another middle hole to match the chrome cover, the gasket sits in only one position, find that, pinpoint the hidden hole position on the gasket with a ballpoint pen, the chrome cover gives the remaining hole position.

                            Further 4 more holes up front aligned with front engine case bolts, I cut down some 6mm bolts, screwed them into the engine case, painted a tiny thick blob of paint on the ends(dead centre) and unscrewed the bolts slowly a couple of mm's till the paint left pinpricks on the steel plate




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                            • #44
                              Whoops -

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                              • #45
                                I guess you didnt use the two holes to the far right to allow for chain clearance? The one with xx on it and the one above?
                                "Beware of any man that owns a pig farm"
                                "Hence the meaning of the Saying,.. As greedy as a pig"
                                79 XS1100 modified standard
                                Chain Drive, Monoshock,extendend hand built swingarm, 200 rear
                                pod filters,150 mains,45 pilots
                                straight pipe 4-2 exhaust
                                new to me 05 Kawasaki zxr12r man does she fly
                                Owned 83 Honda V65 Magna
                                Owned 02 Vstar 650 classic
                                owned 85 Honda Shadow VT 700C

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