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  • Hawkinspickle
    XSive
    • Feb 2022
    • 82
    • British Columbia Canada

    #1

    VIN & Exchangeable parts

    Hi folks,
    I'm new to the forum and new to older Yamaha's. Happy to be here. Just bought a 1979 XS1100, …I think. I say I think because my registration papers say it’s a ‘78 but what I’ve read on line I think it’s the ‘79 special as I noted above. I can’t seem to decode the 9 digit VIN. My VIN is 3H4-000721. Can anyone please confirm my findings?
    Also, I am looking to buy some headers and exhaust on eBay but they are from a 78. Does any know if the 78s and 79s exchange this part or most others? Thanks.
    Dan.
  • LenB
    Truly XSive
    • Nov 2020
    • 125
    • Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

    #2
    Check out https://xs11.club/forum/miscellaneou...identification 3H4 shows up as a Canadian '79 Special. Majority of parts, from my experience, are common from '78 to '81, based on the model (Special/Standard). This can be verified by checking out any seller's parts fiche. e.g. https://www.yamahapartshouse.com/oem...-xs1100f-parts and comparing part #'s vs. production years.
    Last edited by LenB; 02-25-2022, 08:55 AM.
    1980 XS1100G (one owner-me)
    1983 Kawasaki GPZ750 (Frankenbike)
    1984 Honda VF750S V45
    Owned - 1976 XS750D
    Owned - 1972 Honda CB750
    Owned - (unknown year) XS650
    (+ too many Yammies/Hondas to mention)

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    • Ranger_xs1100
      XSive Maximus
      • Oct 2015
      • 716
      • Pittsburgh, PA.

      #3
      Welcome to the forum Dan,

      Here's a lot of great info from Crazy Steve regarding exhaust interchange:

      Interchange Guide: Exhausts, Footpegs - XS11.club Forums

      Good luck,
      Bob
      Bob's Bikes:
      79SF, Military theme bike

      Bob's websites:
      https://RobertKuhnAuthor.com

      https://projectxs11.wordpress.com
      https://rucksackgrunt.com

      Bob's Books:
      "
      Project XS11"
      "Rucksack Grunt"
      "Jean's Heroic Journey"


      Bob's Parts:
      For Sale Here.

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      • DiverRay
        Moderator
        • Nov 2004
        • 7607
        • Star, IDAHO

        #4
        Welcome! Some of the body parts, seat, side covers, grab bar, are ONE year only! You have an early VIN, so it was probably sold late '78, and registered as a '78 and not the '79 model it is. Do check with andreas, a member here who breaks bikes and knows the XS1100 well. He is located in Canada, just north of the Idaho border. I know from experience that you cannot put a standard exhaust on a special without some mods. Most aftermarket exhaust, however, will fit either machine.
        Ray Matteis
        KE6NHG
        XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
        XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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        • Hawkinspickle
          XSive
          • Feb 2022
          • 82
          • British Columbia Canada

          #5
          Thanks everyone for the information and the excellent resources. Never belonged to an online club before but always creeped various public forum discussions and found them to be very helpful. I can now say that I am the owner of a 1979 XS1100SF; thanks Len.
          I just got outbid by a guy on eBay on some headers and aftermarket exhaust. But after reading some the info provided by you folks, maybe it was a good thing as they may not have fit my bike. My apologies if it was of you guys who I was bidding against and drove up the price a few bucks.
          I have tons to learn about these bikes but motivated to do so cause they’re super cool.

          Dan

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          • jetmechmarty
            Master of XSology
            • Nov 2003
            • 7768
            • Coldwater, Mississippi

            #6
            Originally posted by LenB
            Check out https://xs11.club/forum/miscellaneou...identification 3H4 shows up as a Canadian '79 Special. Majority of parts, from my experience, are common from '78 to '81, based on the model (Special/Standard). This can be verified by checking out any seller's parts fiche. e.g. https://www.yamahapartshouse.com/oem...-xs1100f-parts and comparing part #'s vs. production years.
            The XS1100SF parts fiche is no longer available. That's the 1979 Special. It has differences from the 80/81 Specials.
            Marty (in Mississippi)
            XS1100SG
            XS650SK
            XS650SH
            XS650G
            XS6502F
            XS650E

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            • Hawkinspickle
              XSive
              • Feb 2022
              • 82
              • British Columbia Canada

              #7
              Originally posted by jetmechmarty

              The XS1100SF parts fiche is no longer available. That's the 1979 Special. It has differences from the 80/81 Specials.
              A quick glance at the fiche detials, in particular the rear fender, the forks and the cross-over on the exhaust, I see that these are different from my bike which is a '79 special.

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              • Hawkinspickle
                XSive
                • Feb 2022
                • 82
                • British Columbia Canada

                #8
                Hi folks,
                Just confirming, would an engine from a 1980 Yamaha XS1100S (serial number 3U9-000640) bolt into my 1979 XS1100SF (3H4-000721) without issue? A very good source in this group told me that it including the electrical would work without modifications. Not wishing to second guess my friend, I just wanted to be sure before I pull the trigger on the engine purchase.
                Thanks,
                Dan

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                • red bandit
                  XSive Maximus
                  • May 2005
                  • 950
                  • central michigan

                  #9
                  The engine from a 80 will swap right in a 79 frame. Not sure if the 80 ignition will work with the 79 ignition but you can swap the 79 ignition on to the 80 engine.
                  79 F full cruiser, stainless brake lines, spade fuses, Accel coils, modded air box w/larger velocity stacks, 750 FD.
                  79 SF parts bike.

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                  • Hawkinspickle
                    XSive
                    • Feb 2022
                    • 82
                    • British Columbia Canada

                    #10
                    Thanks for confirming. After searching around, I found a post on this site that says the change to the ignition was in '81, just like my friend said it would. So I'm good to go.

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                    • Hawkinspickle
                      XSive
                      • Feb 2022
                      • 82
                      • British Columbia Canada

                      #11
                      Another silly question folks: while I assume that the carbs from my '79 special will bolt with no problems to the '80 special engine, I understand that the XS11's were de-tuned a bit in the 80s. Was this "de-tuning' to meet higher emission standards done to the engine or was it done to the carbs? I guess I am wondering what I will experience, if anything, with the swap from '79 engine to the '80?
                      Dan

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                      • DiverRay
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 7607
                        • Star, IDAHO

                        #12
                        Carbs should bolt up and work, after a vacuum sync. Later carbs had a few changes, but a carb is a carb, and they all try to flow the same amount of air with the XS1100's.
                        Ray Matteis
                        KE6NHG
                        XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                        XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                        • Hawkinspickle
                          XSive
                          • Feb 2022
                          • 82
                          • British Columbia Canada

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DiverRay
                          Carbs should bolt up and work, after a vacuum sync. Later carbs had a few changes, but a carb is a carb, and they all try to flow the same amount of air with the XS1100's.
                          Thanks Ray.

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                          • Rasputin
                            XS-XJ Super Guru
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 3180
                            • Lacombe, Alberta, Canada

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jetmechmarty

                            The XS1100SF parts fiche is no longer available. That's the 1979 Special. It has differences from the 80/81 Specials.
                            I have them here if anyone needs. I did send them all to TC but he disappeared shortly after. I wanted to share all the parts fiches and manuals with the group. I guess he never did the link to them.
                            2-79 XS1100 SF
                            2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                            80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                            Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                            • DiverRay
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 7607
                              • Star, IDAHO

                              #15
                              You may be able to upload the fitch as a pdf. If so, post it in the forum/maintenance/tools section. It should then be available to everyone.
                              Ray Matteis
                              KE6NHG
                              XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                              XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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