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  • Ccitis
    XStremely XSive
    • Jun 2023
    • 212

    #1

    Where is my oil going?

    No smoke... no leaks... no obvious place it is going. Running Lucas 20-50. Everytime I go for a ride lets say around 300kms, there is no oil in the sight glass when I get home. Bike on the center stand. Where is the oil going? I don't get it.
  • bikerphil
    Master of XSology
    • Jan 2008
    • 8919
    • South Flori-DUH

    #2
    Valve seals will leak oil past them and can burn with none or very little visible smoke. If you are running synthetic, that smokes even less. I have this problem with my 79sf, only my friends riding behind me can smell it.
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

    07 Triumph Tiger 1050 (night rider)

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • Tropic-al
      Truly XSive
      • Nov 2009
      • 176
      • Tampa, Florida

      #3
      So you have burned all that oil in a couple hundred mile ride ?? Does it take longer to fill back up at least some ??
      If not, how much are you adding to get to the level mark ??

      79 XS1100F.
      SuperTrapp 4-1 w/center stand.
      TC's fuse box.
      SOFA filter.
      Venture cam chain adjuster.
      Tkat fork brace.
      Progressive fork springs.

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      • Ccitis
        XStremely XSive
        • Jun 2023
        • 212

        #4
        say 250ml to fill. Conventional oil only. It seems very odd to me. I would think valve seals would not burn that much oil....

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        • Radioguylogs
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Nov 2012
          • 2156
          • Presque Isle, MI

          #5
          The noticeable symptom of valve seals leaking:

          After the bike has sat unused for a period of time (a few weeks),... when you start it, it will make a lot of smoke. The smoke diminishes after the oil burns off the exhaust ports in a few minutes.

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          -Mike
          _________
          '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
          '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
          '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
          '79 XS750SF 17k miles
          '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
          '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
          '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

          Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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          • bikerphil
            Master of XSology
            • Jan 2008
            • 8919
            • South Flori-DUH

            #6
            If you're running steadily above say 4500 rpm, the consumption will be greater. Worn rings, same deal. Check your motor for blow by.

            My friends XJ11 had the same issue. We did new rings, ball hone the cylinders and new valve seals, oil consumption problem gone.
            Last edited by bikerphil; 09-05-2026, 08:35 PM.
            2H7 (79) owned since '89
            3H3 owned since '06

            07 Triumph Tiger 1050 (night rider)

            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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            • DEEBS11
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Feb 2023
              • 2053
              • Connecticut

              #7
              Yes, the top end needs both rings and seals and it will last another 45 years. These are just normal wear items. However, don't use Chinese crap parts when replacing.

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              • Ccitis
                XStremely XSive
                • Jun 2023
                • 212

                #8
                I am going to do some tracking to see how much oil it is really going through. No symptoms of burn, the top of the valves were dry last time I was in there. Motor only has 23k miles on it, although I know rubber seals can go bad when sitting. I get some misting on the left side on the frame under the shifter cover which I just put a new gasket and shaft seal on (annoying).

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                • bikerphil
                  Master of XSology
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 8919
                  • South Flori-DUH

                  #9
                  Maybe have a buddy riding behind you check/smell for smoke.
                  2H7 (79) owned since '89
                  3H3 owned since '06

                  07 Triumph Tiger 1050 (night rider)

                  "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                  • cajun31
                    Moderator
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1997
                    • Brandon, MS

                    #10
                    You mentioned mist on the left side. Give the bike a good cleaning and then take it for a ride after it dries and immediately inspect for where that mist is coming from.
                    2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                    81 LH
                    02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                    22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                    Jim

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                    • Ccitis
                      XStremely XSive
                      • Jun 2023
                      • 212

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cajun31
                      You mentioned mist on the left side. Give the bike a good cleaning and then take it for a ride after it dries and immediately inspect for where that mist is coming from.
                      Its coming from under the shifter mech cover. I re gasketed it and put a new seal on the shift shaft before the season. Didn't work!

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                      • bikerphil
                        Master of XSology
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 8919
                        • South Flori-DUH

                        #12
                        It could also be leaking from above the shifter cover, particularly from the bearing cover to the left of the starter. There are two O rings under there.
                        Last edited by bikerphil; Yesterday, 07:03 PM.
                        2H7 (79) owned since '89
                        3H3 owned since '06

                        07 Triumph Tiger 1050 (night rider)

                        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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