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  • DEEBS11
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Feb 2023
    • 1382
    • Connecticut

    #16
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    • Ccitis
      Truly XSive
      • Jun 2023
      • 138

      #17
      Originally posted by LAB3
      There's a difference between static balance and dynamic balance. Static balance would be putting the tire and rim on a truing stand then using weights to balance it. Dynamic balance uses one of those newfangled machines that spins the tire up to speed and gives the operator the info they need to properly place the weights.

      With all that said, I don't bother with either method and use this stuff instead, it doesn't work for squat when it comes to punctures but does a great job at dynamically balancing as you ride. A LOT of shops are using it these days instead of other balance methods and for about $20 per tire a DIY guy like me can easily not give it second thought.

      https://ride-on.com/
      Interesting... and works on tubes?

      Shinkos were not my choice, PO had them on... and they were brand new so figured might as well. Pumped the tires up to 38, still have the vibration. Fork pressure is 10 on each side... I noticed I get the same vibration on hard braking. I can see the fork flexing back and forth from front to back when I hit the front brake hard. Strange. No notchiness in the steering bearings, bars fall to the side as they should. Might be replacing wheel and steering bearings next though to try and figure this out.

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      • LenB
        Truly XSive
        • Nov 2020
        • 124
        • Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

        #18
        Ccitis - you're likely on top of this, but I'll just mention it anyway. Be sure your front axle clamp is tight to the base of the fork slider at the front and the gap is at the rear. This slight variation can really mess up your front end by throwing off your handling, possibly having and effect on gyroscopic precession at high speeds.
        1980 XS1100G (one owner-me)
        1983 Kawasaki GPZ750 (Frankenbike)
        1984 Honda VF750S V45
        Owned - 1976 XS750D
        Owned - 1972 Honda CB750
        Owned - (unknown year) XS650
        (+ too many Yammies/Hondas to mention)

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        • Ccitis
          Truly XSive
          • Jun 2023
          • 138

          #19
          Originally posted by LenB
          Ccitis - you're likely on top of this, but I'll just mention it anyway. Be sure your front axle clamp is tight to the base of the fork slider at the front and the gap is at the rear. This slight variation can really mess up your front end by throwing off your handling, possibly having and effect on gyroscopic precession at high speeds.
          I am trying to understand this... all advice is welcome. You are saying on the left side where the clamp is, there should be a gap?

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          • LAB3
            XSive Maximus
            • May 2022
            • 677
            • Traveling the U.S. with no permanent address

            #20
            Originally posted by Ccitis

            Interesting... and works on tubes?
            I've used it on tube tires

            What LenB wrote has merit. Take a look at where the fork clamp meets the axle. The front edge of the clamp should sit directly in contact with bottom of the fork leg, there should be a gap left on the rear side of that. The front nut gets tightened down first and the rear nut after that.
            1980 XS1100G

            Intelligent people discuss ideas, average people discuss events, petty people discuss other people.

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            • Schming
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Jul 2009
              • 2070
              • Pittsburgh,PA

              #21
              Originally posted by LAB3

              I've used it on tube tires

              What LenB wrote has merit. Take a look at where the fork clamp meets the axle. The front edge of the clamp should sit directly in contact with bottom of the fork leg, there should be a gap left on the rear side of that. The front nut gets tightened down first and the rear nut after that.
              Torque specs for above mentioned: https://www.manualslib.com/manual/11...age=232#manual
              1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
              1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
              1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
              1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
              1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

              Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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              • Ccitis
                Truly XSive
                • Jun 2023
                • 138

                #22
                Originally posted by LAB3

                I've used it on tube tires

                What LenB wrote has merit. Take a look at where the fork clamp meets the axle. The front edge of the clamp should sit directly in contact with bottom of the fork leg, there should be a gap left on the rear side of that. The front nut gets tightened down first and the rear nut after that.
                Got it. Will check and torque appropriately

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                • LenB
                  Truly XSive
                  • Nov 2020
                  • 124
                  • Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

                  #23

                  Just like this....

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                  1980 XS1100G (one owner-me)
                  1983 Kawasaki GPZ750 (Frankenbike)
                  1984 Honda VF750S V45
                  Owned - 1976 XS750D
                  Owned - 1972 Honda CB750
                  Owned - (unknown year) XS650
                  (+ too many Yammies/Hondas to mention)

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                  • Ccitis
                    Truly XSive
                    • Jun 2023
                    • 138

                    #24
                    Rechecked all the torque specs from top to bottom. All is in order, still getting the vibration. I am wondering about the tire itself. For now will just keep to slower speeds I suppose.

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                    • skids
                      XS-XJ Super Guru
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 5046
                      • Florissant, CO, USA

                      #25
                      Check the trailing arm bearings for torque spec. Be aware of the typo in the clymers.

                      Skids (Sid Hansen)

                      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                      • DEEBS11
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 1382
                        • Connecticut

                        #26
                        Clymer XS1100 manual Page 222. It's the torque spec for the swing arm pivot shaft bolts. It's listed as 47 foot pounds but should be 47 inch pounds.

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                        • Ccitis
                          Truly XSive
                          • Jun 2023
                          • 138

                          #27
                          Originally posted by DEEBS11
                          Clymer XS1100 manual Page 222. It's the torque spec for the swing arm pivot shaft bolts. It's listed as 47 foot pounds but should be 47 inch pounds.
                          Will check today. Why do you think Swing arm pivot would impact front vibration?

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                          • DiverRay
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 7600
                            • Star, IDAHO

                            #28
                            If the swing arm, in the rear, isn't doing what it's supposed to do, it can effect the front suspension.
                            Ray Matteis
                            KE6NHG
                            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                            • DEEBS11
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Feb 2023
                              • 1382
                              • Connecticut

                              #29
                              Wobble in the back - wobble in the front. The steering head acts like a hinge. This is why I suggested the balance of the rear tire. Very often overlooked.

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