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  • aquamantx
    Truly XSive
    • Aug 2015
    • 189
    • Montgomery, TX

    #1

    Brake master cylinder diaphragm busing

    Ok so cleaning up rear master. have the new kit for the innards but as we all know there is always something not available. Some guidance on the plate/busing that sits under the diaphragm. Super important, or just shape holder for the diaphragm? mines a little crusty and have cleaned. Should I just smooth out with a skim coat of jb weld or does someone have a source.
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  • DEEBS11
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Feb 2023
    • 1389
    • Connecticut

    #2
    No new parts available. This used unit can be cleaned up.





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    • aquamantx
      Truly XSive
      • Aug 2015
      • 189
      • Montgomery, TX

      #3
      Appreciate the find. Mine was pretty crusty under the rubber but the rubber is still good. keep it for back up..
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      • LAB3
        XSive Maximus
        • May 2022
        • 677
        • Traveling the U.S. with no permanent address

        #4
        Remember, it's the rubber that does the sealing not the bushing. I'd just clean it up and use it as is.
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        • Radioguylogs
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Nov 2012
          • 1934
          • Presque Isle, MI

          #5
          I'm with LAB3. I usually just hit them with a wire wheel and reuse them.

          I think JB Weld is asking for trouble being uneven and susceptible to chemicals.

          I'd pick POR15 if anything.
          Last edited by Radioguylogs; 02-23-2025, 10:45 PM.
          -Mike
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          '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
          '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
          '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
          '79 XS750SF 17k miles
          '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
          '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
          '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

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          • jetmechmarty
            Master of XSology
            • Nov 2003
            • 7764
            • Coldwater, Mississippi

            #6
            Originally posted by Radioguylogs
            I'm with LAB3. I usually just hit them with a wire wheel and reuse them.


            I'd pick POR15 if anything.
            I believe POR15 is solvent based. Zinc plate it.
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            • Radioguylogs
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Nov 2012
              • 1934
              • Presque Isle, MI

              #7
              Originally posted by jetmechmarty

              I believe POR15 is solvent based. Zinc plate it.
              No solvent will dissolve POR15.

              Zinc plating is better if you can manage it.
              -Mike
              _________
              '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
              '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
              '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
              '79 XS750SF 17k miles
              '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
              '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
              '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

              Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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              • cajun31
                Moderator
                • Oct 2003
                • 1783
                • Brandon, MS

                #8
                Just wanted to throw this out there Yambits : Master Cylinder Parts for Yamaha XS1100 1978-1980
                2 - 80 LGs bought one new
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                • aquamantx
                  Truly XSive
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 189
                  • Montgomery, TX

                  #9
                  Ok so master rebuilt with new kit but the darn thing doesn't want to return. Followed instructions and made sure seals went in the proper direction. Any thoughts? Silver lining, I'm getting decent in removing a rear master cylinder.
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                  • bikerphil
                    Master of XSology
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 8631
                    • South Flori-DUH

                    #10
                    The "cupped" side of the seals face towards the brake hose, and the inner seal needs to go over the inner shoulder as shown in the following pic...

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                    • aquamantx
                      Truly XSive
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 189
                      • Montgomery, TX

                      #11
                      Mine are facing that way. Spindle is a little different. spool sides in ok but sticks on return. I'm going to see what original seals do again,
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