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  • Desert Dave
    XSive
    • Apr 2024
    • 36
    • Arizona City, AZ

    #1

    1st Question this time! Subject: brakes

    Greetings! I have a 1979 XS1100sf Special. After getting her just the way I wanted I unfortunately put her in storage for 8 years. When I picked her up the front brake lever had no pressure, and the master cylinder was empty. I cannot tell where it went to as I don't see any signs of a leak. I had rebuilt both calipers and the master a couple of years before storing the bike.

    I'm thinking of just replacing the entire brake system instead of rebuilding it again. I have a few questions about that. First, I see that I will need a master cylinder with a 16mm piston. Will any master with a 16mm piston for a 7/8" bar work (without modifications)? What about a radial one?

    The other question that I had was that I read that Brembo makes a bolt on replacement caliper for the standard, but the posts all seem to indicate that it will not work on a special. Is there a different part number or manufacturer that makes one that bolts on to the special?

    Yes, I will be updating to new SS lines. 😎
  • DEEBS11
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Feb 2023
    • 1980
    • Connecticut

    #2

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    • Desert Dave
      XSive
      • Apr 2024
      • 36
      • Arizona City, AZ

      #3
      DEEBS11,

      Thank you for the quick reply. I saw that thread, and I will probably go that route. I was trying to get one without the mount for the mirror as I have bar end mirrors to install. I know that I can just put a bolt in the hole. Although I do have to find a reverse threaded bolt for one side.

      Desert Dave

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      • bikerphil
        Master of XSology
        • Jan 2008
        • 8863
        • South Flori-DUH

        #4
        Brembo also makes a sweet 16mm coffin style M/C, no mirror optional, and will work perfect with SS lines and the OEM caliper piston dimensions. Unfortunately there are no decent upgrade calipers for the Specials, have to make the originals do.
        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        07 Triumph Tiger 1050 (night rider)

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

        ☮

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        • jkorn
          Truly XSive
          • May 2003
          • 188
          • Wickenburg AZ

          #5
          I would rebuild original parts if that is an option.
          Jeff Korn
          Original Owner 79XS1100 E
          Yamaha Warrior has come and gone

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          • DEEBS11
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Feb 2023
            • 1980
            • Connecticut

            #6
            Brembo 16mm with no mirror mount. Nice part.

            https://www.ebay.com/itm/33333609101...Bk9SR7LBg_ThYw


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            • bikerphil
              Master of XSology
              • Jan 2008
              • 8863
              • South Flori-DUH

              #7
              Originally posted by DEEBS11
              Brembo 16mm with no mirror mount. Nice part.
              No doubt. I've been running one for 10 years and it still performs and looks like brand new. This was recommended to me by vintage brake guru Michael "Mercury" Morse of vintage brakes as an excellent upgrade for the Special's lackluster brakes. The unit is powdercoated so no paint to peel off through the years. That front mounting bracket can also be swapped out for a L or R hand threaded mirror mount.
              Last edited by bikerphil; 04-24-2024, 06:20 AM.
              2H7 (79) owned since '89
              3H3 owned since '06

              07 Triumph Tiger 1050 (night rider)

              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

              ☮

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              • DEEBS11
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Feb 2023
                • 1980
                • Connecticut

                #8
                Phil, I am thinking of going Brembo myself. This unit is the same with the mirror mount attached. I drilled out my clutch side mirror mount and Heli-coiled it for right hand thread.


                https://www.ebay.com/itm/352947716309


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                • DEEBS11
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Feb 2023
                  • 1980
                  • Connecticut

                  #9
                  Clamp/mirror mount.

                  https://www.ebay.com/itm/35265388720...cAAOSwKrhVXH3U


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                  • bikerphil
                    Master of XSology
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 8863
                    • South Flori-DUH

                    #10
                    You won't regret it, it has such an overall quality linear feel at the level. Too bad it isn't offered in a 14mm which is the optimal match for the Standard's calipers. I'm running the 13mm version on my Standard, lever is a tad mushy, but still has excellent stopping power. I can lock the front wheel at 40 mph if needed.
                    2H7 (79) owned since '89
                    3H3 owned since '06

                    07 Triumph Tiger 1050 (night rider)

                    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

                    ☮

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                    • Desert Dave
                      XSive
                      • Apr 2024
                      • 36
                      • Arizona City, AZ

                      #11
                      Thank you gentlemen! That's a lot of good information 😸

                      I really like the look of this one, but a little iffy on the seller. I can't seem to find it elsewhere either 😞

                      https://www.ebay.com/itm/404747212648

                      Since I will need to rebuild my calipers has anyone used Brake Crafters? I like that it comes with a stainless steel piston.

                      This Brake Caliper Seal & Stainless Piston Kit includes the components necessary to rebuild the caliper(s) according to the specifications provided by the original manufacturer. Proper functioning of the brake system depends on pistons that move easily within the pistons and seals play a big role in protecting the

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                      • DEEBS11
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 1980
                        • Connecticut

                        #12
                        Phil, you talked me into it. It's on the way. Thanks.

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                        • bikerphil
                          Master of XSology
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 8863
                          • South Flori-DUH

                          #13
                          Dave, yes I have used product from Brakecrafters and it's top notch stuff.

                          DEEBS, right on!
                          2H7 (79) owned since '89
                          3H3 owned since '06

                          07 Triumph Tiger 1050 (night rider)

                          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

                          ☮

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                          • Desert Dave
                            XSive
                            • Apr 2024
                            • 36
                            • Arizona City, AZ

                            #14
                            Sweet! Then I shall order from them.

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