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  • jpiombo67
    XSive
    • May 2021
    • 33
    • Traverse City, Michigan

    #1

    Big Mistake...Please advise

    Total noob. Went to change the oil today and drained the middle drive oil instead of engine oil.
    Long story short, bike ran for about 1 min. Smoke everywhere and oil leaking from air box valve.

    I drained the oil, cleaned out air box
    Tomorrow I’ll be purchasing oils for both engine and middle drive.

    Question how much damage did I do?
    will it be safe to start the engine .

    1979 xs1100
    2017 CRF 250 Rally
    1979 XS 1100
    1985 Porsche 944
    1991 Alfa 164
  • FJ111200
    XStremely XSive
    • Oct 2007
    • 317
    • Crewe, Cheshire, UK

    #2
    If you only ran it for a minute it'll be alright. Just oil overfill exiting the engine. Middle gearbox should be alright too as long as it wasn't ridden hard. It takes a lot of abuse to fook an engine.

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    • DiverRay
      Moderator
      • Nov 2004
      • 7608
      • Star, IDAHO

      #3
      Use a new or very good allen wrench on the middle drive!! If it does not want to turn, try heating a little bit with a heat gun or propane torch. You want the case warm, and the bolt cold so it will start turning a little easier.
      Do pick up synthetic 70-140 gear oil for the middle drive. We proved a long time ago that it kept the heat down. Less heat, less friction and less wear.
      Ray Matteis
      KE6NHG
      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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      • jpiombo67
        XSive
        • May 2021
        • 33
        • Traverse City, Michigan

        #4
        Thank you all.

        Both engine and middle drive oils replaced. To manual specs. Ordered new air filter, the one in the now is a bit oily from my disastrous debacle.

        Took a few turns to get the machine to fire up.

        Smoke was coming from exhausts, but went away after a couple of slow loops around my block.

        Let the the machine rest for a few hours, started Up, but still smoking. I let it idle for about 3 minutes and smoke went away. No seepage anywhere. Engine is dry.
        I imagine it is residual oil from the large quantities I mistakenly put in the crank case
        2017 CRF 250 Rally
        1979 XS 1100
        1985 Porsche 944
        1991 Alfa 164

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        • bikerphil
          Master of XSology
          • Jan 2008
          • 8640
          • South Flori-DUH

          #5
          Take a longer ride and it should totally clear up.
          2H7 (79) owned since '89
          3H3 owned since '06

          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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          • jpiombo67
            XSive
            • May 2021
            • 33
            • Traverse City, Michigan

            #6
            I will. Needs to warm up. 40’s at the moment. Lol. Lucky you that lives in Florida.
            2017 CRF 250 Rally
            1979 XS 1100
            1985 Porsche 944
            1991 Alfa 164

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            • bikerphil
              Master of XSology
              • Jan 2008
              • 8640
              • South Flori-DUH

              #7
              Yep, high 70's here at midnight. BTW, what is a limited edition? It says that in your signature.
              2H7 (79) owned since '89
              3H3 owned since '06

              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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              • jpiombo67
                XSive
                • May 2021
                • 33
                • Traverse City, Michigan

                #8
                Bikerphil... not quite sure it says it in the badge. I’m going to research the vin and see what I come up with.
                2017 CRF 250 Rally
                1979 XS 1100
                1985 Porsche 944
                1991 Alfa 164

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                • Ranger_xs1100
                  XSive Maximus
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 716
                  • Pittsburgh, PA.

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jpiombo67
                  Bikerphil... not quite sure it says it in the badge. I’m going to research the vin and see what I come up with.
                  That's interesting, would love to see it...... could you post a picture of that badge?
                  Thanks,
                  Bob's Bikes:
                  79SF, Military theme bike

                  Bob's websites:
                  https://RobertKuhnAuthor.com

                  https://projectxs11.wordpress.com
                  https://rucksackgrunt.com

                  Bob's Books:
                  "
                  Project XS11"
                  "Rucksack Grunt"
                  "Jean's Heroic Journey"


                  Bob's Parts:
                  For Sale Here.

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                  • jpiombo67
                    XSive
                    • May 2021
                    • 33
                    • Traverse City, Michigan

                    #10
                    Here is the picture of the badge. Possibly an aftermarket build? VIN number reflects base trim
                    2017 CRF 250 Rally
                    1979 XS 1100
                    1985 Porsche 944
                    1991 Alfa 164

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                    • Ranger_xs1100
                      XSive Maximus
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 716
                      • Pittsburgh, PA.

                      #11
                      That's a cool badge and a great looking bike, thanks for posting pics.
                      Bob's Bikes:
                      79SF, Military theme bike

                      Bob's websites:
                      https://RobertKuhnAuthor.com

                      https://projectxs11.wordpress.com
                      https://rucksackgrunt.com

                      Bob's Books:
                      "
                      Project XS11"
                      "Rucksack Grunt"
                      "Jean's Heroic Journey"


                      Bob's Parts:
                      For Sale Here.

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                      • DiverRay
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 7608
                        • Star, IDAHO

                        #12
                        With the color, I would guess Bob Jones had a hand in that bike. Check the rear shocks for a sticker from Merriam Cycles.
                        Ray Matteis
                        KE6NHG
                        XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                        XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                        • Radioguylogs
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1938
                          • Presque Isle, MI

                          #13
                          The gold detail on the side covers look like this bike, which was just purchased by one of our members in Traverse City, Michigan:


                          -Mike
                          _________
                          '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
                          '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
                          '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
                          '79 XS750SF 17k miles
                          '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
                          '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
                          '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

                          Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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                          • DiverRay
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 7608
                            • Star, IDAHO

                            #14
                            Mike, look at the tank, it has the same "logo". Karla may remember if Bob did something like that for a "touring" look machine.
                            Ray Matteis
                            KE6NHG
                            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                            • Ranger_xs1100
                              XSive Maximus
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 716
                              • Pittsburgh, PA.

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DiverRay
                              Mike, look at the tank, it has the same "logo". Karla may remember if Bob did something like that for a "touring" look machine.
                              And the same front fender and same seat... looks like the same bike to me!
                              Bob's Bikes:
                              79SF, Military theme bike

                              Bob's websites:
                              https://RobertKuhnAuthor.com

                              https://projectxs11.wordpress.com
                              https://rucksackgrunt.com

                              Bob's Books:
                              "
                              Project XS11"
                              "Rucksack Grunt"
                              "Jean's Heroic Journey"


                              Bob's Parts:
                              For Sale Here.

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