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  • Gord
    New
    • Sep 2020
    • 7
    • Parksville British Columbia Canada

    #1

    bike doesn't perform like it should

    Completely dismantled motor to put in new cam chain. installed new rings lapped and shimmed valves to spec. Motor is running good but on highway won't go over 74 mph. It has pod filters on carbs and an 80s Jarden exhaust system I am thinking it is a carb issue any suggestions
  • DiverRay
    Moderator
    • Nov 2004
    • 7607
    • Star, IDAHO

    #2
    #1!! What year and model is the bike?
    The early bikes have a mechanical advance system, as well as the vacuum retard that needs to be connected to the #2 carb(2nd from left when sitting on the bike).
    What pod filters do you have? Some are KNOWN to cause problems because of the design!
    How much fuel do you have in the tank? Specials do NOT run well when low!!!
    With a little more info, we should be able to give you someplace to start looking for your problems.
    Ray Matteis
    KE6NHG
    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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    • Gord
      New
      • Sep 2020
      • 7
      • Parksville British Columbia Canada

      #3
      bike is a 1979 special it has K&N pod filters. tank was full. vacuum is working. i synchronized the carbs

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      • MaximPhil
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • May 2004
        • 4119
        • Mississauga, ON CANADA

        #4
        Originally posted by Gord
        bike is a 1979 special it has K&N pod filters. tank was full. vacuum is working. i synchronized the carbs
        Hi Gord,
        Welcome to XS11club. Fuel lines not kinked.? Breather hole in cap clear ?
        Phil
        1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
        1983 XJ 650 Maxim
        2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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        • Bax
          XStremely XSive
          • Jan 2016
          • 344
          • Merrimack, NH

          #5
          Hi Gord, A few things to check. The wires going to the timing pickups are a known weak point and break inside the insulation on the loop back. While you have the timing cover off make sure the advance rotates freely. IFRR 75mph is like 5000 RPMs in 5th which is at the max advance. On bikes with mech advance timing I've read that folks had similar issues when an ignition box from 80 and up were swapped into the bike, need to verify part numbers. Can you achieve higher RPMs in lower gears or does it stumble consistently at the same place on the tach?

          ---Bax
          80 SG, --- Slightly modified with EFI.....

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          • DiverRay
            Moderator
            • Nov 2004
            • 7607
            • Star, IDAHO

            #6
            Try a run with the petcocks set to prime. That runs off the front lines, and if you do have a kink in the line, that may help it to run. Do just one side, test, then the other. That should let you know if it's only one line. I know I STILL have some feed problems on my '79SF, Left side only, and I've played with it all summer...
            Last edited by DiverRay; 10-27-2020, 09:02 AM.
            Ray Matteis
            KE6NHG
            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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            • jetmechmarty
              Master of XSology
              • Nov 2003
              • 7768
              • Coldwater, Mississippi

              #7
              FWIW, I have a Jardine 4 into 1 on mine. It performs very well, IMHO.
              Marty (in Mississippi)
              XS1100SG
              XS650SK
              XS650SH
              XS650G
              XS6502F
              XS650E

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              • Gord
                New
                • Sep 2020
                • 7
                • Parksville British Columbia Canada

                #8
                Thanks for the suggestions I will go through bike again.

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                • 2WheelFun
                  XStremely XSive
                  • Aug 2020
                  • 266
                  • Pittsburgh PA

                  #9
                  Mine was pinched fuel line when it acted like that. You will find the issue, keep at it!
                  1979 XS1100 Special
                  1980 XS1100 Std parts bucket
                  1987 ZL1000 Eliminator
                  1976 XS750D Project in waiting

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                  • Gord
                    New
                    • Sep 2020
                    • 7
                    • Parksville British Columbia Canada

                    #10
                    Thanks for you advice went through fuel system. the carbs were rebuilt. Pulled off pod filters revved up engine only one of the sliders moved. Moved them manually and only the one comes down slow the other three just drop down. I assume I have to replace diaphragm.

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                    • DiverRay
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 7607
                      • Star, IDAHO

                      #11
                      Do all 4 if you do any! One "bad" is just the first to go.
                      Ray Matteis
                      KE6NHG
                      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                      • Bax
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 344
                        • Merrimack, NH

                        #12
                        Hi Gord, Those diaphgrams are available from JBM as a replacement part. I've used them, there on my bike.

                        JBM Industries rubber carburetor holder socket boots, flange intake sockets, vibration isolators, stainless steel exhaust springs, for Rotax 912, 582, 503, 447, 377, Zenoah & HKS engines. Yamaha 650 SX and TX Mikuni BS-38 and 34 CV carbs. Diaphragms & holders.


                        ---Bax
                        80 SG, --- Slightly modified with EFI.....

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                        • Gord
                          New
                          • Sep 2020
                          • 7
                          • Parksville British Columbia Canada

                          #13
                          thanks for the help. Bax thanks for letting me know where to find the diaphragms. Will order soon but first i have some more riding to do.

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                          • jetmechmarty
                            Master of XSology
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 7768
                            • Coldwater, Mississippi

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Gord
                            Thanks for you advice went through fuel system. the carbs were rebuilt. Pulled off pod filters revved up engine only one of the sliders moved. Moved them manually and only the one comes down slow the other three just drop down. I assume I have to replace diaphragm.
                            80-81 YAMAHA XS1100 CARBURETOR SLIDE PISTON & RUBBER DIAPHRAGM

                            At $20 each, these are going to be tough to beat. They came up on another forum. No complaint listed. The diaphragm is as original.

                            Marty (in Mississippi)
                            XS1100SG
                            XS650SK
                            XS650SH
                            XS650G
                            XS6502F
                            XS650E

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                            • Bonz
                              XS-XJ Super Guru
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 3206
                              • Palmer Lake, Colorado

                              #15
                              Simple and maybe silly thought here... Are the diaphragms sealed around the top of the carb body and in their groove correctly? If they are not in the groove and seated properly they will do what you described.
                              Howard

                              ZRX1200

                              BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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