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  • #16
    Originally posted by donebysunday View Post

    Anti-sieze I never heard of before on the grounds ? Is it as good, better than dielectric grease ?

    Please excuse me if I missed the mentioning of these things previously !
    I do use dielectric grease on things like battery terminals. I do not stuff it into clips, but I now use it around the perimeters of the plastic to keep moisture out. The problem with dielectric grease is that it attracts dust and makes a mess. It is also not a good electrical conductor. Once it has attracted dust (I live up 2 miles of dirt road) it is very difficult to clean out of the inside of clips if you stuff it in there. The use of antiseize to improve electrical connections is intriguing. I am sure that you would need to use it very strategically with light coating on electrical contacts or there could be some seeping and maybe some stray currents! I have not tried it yet.
    Skids (Sid Hansen)

    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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    • #17
      As an amateur radio operator I use "no-ox" on some connections. It's used to keep the electrons flowing, but it WILL conduct and cause shorts if misused. Anti-seize is a lot like no-ox, but MUCH cheaper.( HAM radio operators are cheapskates) You can usually find it in a hardware or auto parts store. It's also a good conductor, so I only use it on grounds to keep the possibility of shorts down.
      Dielectric grease is NON-CONDUCTIVE, so no electron flow past it. A small amount around connections keeps them clean and water out. I would NOT put it on the ground points, as it may cause problems because of the insulation properties.
      Ray Matteis
      KE6NHG
      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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      • #18
        Dielectric grease is an insulator. Copper based anti-seize should conduct. Some disagree with me, but keep dielectric grease away from my bike. It might be good o’ring lube.
        Marty (in Mississippi)
        XS1100SG
        XS650SK
        XS650SH
        XS650G
        XS6502F
        XS650E

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        • #19
          Does make for an excellent o-ring lube.
          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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          • #20
            Dielectric grease

            Please correct me if I'm wrong !
            Isn't the idea of dielectric grease to insulate and not be conductive, in that way to keep the elements out and help prevent corrosion/oxidation ?
            76 XS650 C ROADSTER
            80 XS650 G Special II
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            80 XS 1100 SG
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            • #21
              Originally posted by donebysunday View Post
              Please correct me if I'm wrong !
              Isn't the idea of dielectric grease to insulate and not be conductive, in that way to keep the elements out and help prevent corrosion/oxidation ?
              No, you aren’t wrong. My opinion is that it does more harm than good. It’s tough to get rid of as well. A little dab on the spark plug boot is what it’s for.
              Marty (in Mississippi)
              XS1100SG
              XS650SK
              XS650SH
              XS650G
              XS6502F
              XS650E

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              • #22
                Dielectric grease

                Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                The first thing to do is remove the right side cover and the panel that the fuse box is mounted on. Behind it is the connector to the stator. Make sure that one is clean and conducting. Lose that one and it will take the stator with it. You'll know right away if it's bad. The plastic will be brown or melting.

                Hey Marty,
                In this post of a picture of the regulator plug that melted even with all that dielectric grease seen in the plug, is the dielectric grease culprit ?
                Or was the dielectric grease used after to try and compensate for a poor corroded/oxidized connection ?

                I've not had any problems with dielectric grease on bullet connectors or wiring plugs. Maybe it's how sparely I use the stuff ?

                As you said, My opinion is that it does more harm than good. It’s tough to get rid of as well. A little dab on the spark plug boot is what it’s for.

                Is it for the boot or the terminal of the spark plug ?
                Last edited by donebysunday; 08-07-2018, 10:14 AM.
                76 XS650 C ROADSTER
                80 XS650 G Special II
                https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
                80 XS 1100 SG
                81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
                https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
                AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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                • #23
                  It's for the boot of the plug. Helps keep water out, and keeps the boot from sticking to the plug.
                  Honda used it in the engine compartment of it's cars for years, from the factory. As stated, it will NOT fix a problem that already exists, but a LITTLE applied properly can keep the problems from arising.
                  Ray Matteis
                  KE6NHG
                  XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                  XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by donebysunday View Post
                    Hey Marty,
                    In this post of a picture of the regulator plug that melted even with all that dielectric grease seen in the plug, is the dielectric grease culprit ?
                    Or was the dielectric grease used after to try and compensate for a poor corroded/oxidized connection ?

                    I've not had any problems with dielectric grease on bullet connectors or wiring plugs. Maybe it's how sparely I use the stuff ?

                    As you said, My opinion is that it does more harm than good. It’s tough to get rid of as well. A little dab on the spark plug boot is what it’s for.

                    Is it for the boot or the terminal of the spark plug ?
                    You should ask MaximPhil about that. His brand new connector failed several hours from home. The new connector was filled with dielectric grease.
                    Marty (in Mississippi)
                    XS1100SG
                    XS650SK
                    XS650SH
                    XS650G
                    XS6502F
                    XS650E

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                    • #25
                      Dielectric grease

                      Veery interesting !

                      I've been using as I stated, on over 90 XS650s and XS1100 combined, no problem that I've in the last 30 years.

                      Now do I stop or keep using it wong, aaw so, what would Confucius ........ ?
                      76 XS650 C ROADSTER
                      80 XS650 G Special II
                      https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
                      80 XS 1100 SG
                      81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
                      https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
                      AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by donebysunday View Post
                        Veery interesting !

                        I've been using as I stated, on over 90 XS650s and XS1100 combined, no problem that I've in the last 30 years.

                        Now do I stop or keep using it wong, aaw so, what would Confucius ........ ?
                        There's only one way to find out -- empirical testing!

                        Use some dielectric grease on your next set of spark plugs and put it on the metal connectors inside the caps along with the rubber insulator boots, then lightly coat the threads with it instead of your favorite metallic anti-seize compound.
                        -- Scott
                        _____

                        2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                        1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                        1979 XS1100F: parts
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by donebysunday View Post
                          Veery interesting !

                          I've been using as I stated, on over 90 XS650s and XS1100 combined, no problem that I've in the last 30 years.

                          Now do I stop or keep using it wong, aaw so, what would Confucius ........ ?
                          Maybe you haven't had a problem because you sold the bikes.

                          I was told they use it on new cars. My answer to that is, they want me to buy another new car.
                          Marty (in Mississippi)
                          XS1100SG
                          XS650SK
                          XS650SH
                          XS650G
                          XS6502F
                          XS650E

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by 3Phase View Post
                            There's only one way to find out -- empirical testing!

                            Use some dielectric grease on your next set of spark plugs and put it on the metal connectors inside the caps along with the rubber insulator boots, then lightly coat the threads with it instead of your favorite metallic anti-seize compound.
                            If not on the threads, connectors, bullets, battery including batteries in my watch, flashlights, electric plugs (females) in the house, garage, extension cords, USB, mini USB, chargers, solar lights, out door Christmas lights etc..

                            Now I'll need to try it on the threads of the plugs !


                            Marty said, Maybe you haven't had a problem because you sold the bikes.

                            I was told they use it on new cars. My answer to that is, they want me to buy another new car.

                            But many of the folks I've sold these bikes to come back to me for years and years, except the ones that have passed on. They have me do maintenance, set carbs, etc.. Not once do I remember electrical.
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                            Marty (in Memphis)
                            XS1100SG
                            XS650SK
                            76 XS650 C ROADSTER
                            80 XS650 G Special II
                            https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
                            80 XS 1100 SG
                            81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
                            https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
                            AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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                            • #29
                              If you’re good with it, go ahead and use it. As for me, I wouldn’t buy a bike that had that stuff on it. We should just agree to disagree.
                              Marty (in Mississippi)
                              XS1100SG
                              XS650SK
                              XS650SH
                              XS650G
                              XS6502F
                              XS650E

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                                If you’re good with it, go ahead and use it. As for me, I wouldn’t buy a bike that had that stuff on it. We should just agree to disagree.
                                I'll agree to that !
                                Still leaves me questioning my use of it when everyone disapproves of it's use but me ?
                                If you would not buy a bike with dielectric grease used on it's electrical connections, I certainly will not tell you that I used it on the bike };-)

                                Say is 4-5 PM a good time call to catch you free and easy ?
                                Last edited by donebysunday; 08-08-2018, 08:00 AM.
                                76 XS650 C ROADSTER
                                80 XS650 G Special II
                                https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
                                80 XS 1100 SG
                                81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
                                https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
                                AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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