Electrical Components

[myac455]

Hi

New to XS1100's ..See my introduction

Having trouble downloading the manuals at the moment .

I've got a few questions about electrical components that I figure someone would be able to help me identify.
I have the wiring diagram on my computer..Bike is in the shop
Is there someone here who knows these bikes, front to back, top to bottom, that could chat on the phone for a few minutes this weekend some time?
Probably save a bunch of typing .
I'd sure appreciate it .
Mark Yac
602-769-0346

[Schming]

Hi Mark,

There are a handful of members that know the electrical side of these bikes fluently.

Stand by they'll be along shortly.

Again, nice to have ya here and thanxs for the pics, I never saw the Police version of the XS11.

[Eveready1100]

Interesting, is it an import??

[myac455]

Interesting, is it an import??

No, I don't think so.

The back is hacked up, so can't tell, but the front fender bolt on just like a stock, smaller one would.
Noticed the steering stem is not correct for the bike. I'll post pics in a few , but also, if look at the front wheel, it doesn't match the rear.
??

[myac455]

Steering

You can see there are no steering stops on the lower triple tree, to match the frame stop.

There is a bolt welded underneath to match the stops underneath.
The calipers, speedo , and wheel seem to match up okay, even though the wheel is incorrect.
The forks are right about 1.450 . Not sure where the lower legs came from, so might be a problem for fork seals. I want to put rubber dust caps on it, and not the accordion gators like it had.
I can get the rest of the measurements for them, in case someone can compare them to an original XS11 cap for me.

[3Phase]

Hey there, Mark, welcome to the forum!

I just got back from a rally in Colorado and I'm still unpacking but can you give a hint about the electrical problem using small words and short sentences: charging, ignition, lighting, starting, all of it?

[skids]

You can see there are no steering stops on the lower triple tree, to match the frame stop.
There is a bolt welded underneath to match the stops underneath.

Nuts are sometimes used (JB welded) to the steering stops to prevent damage to the tank when Plexifaring hardware is installed.

[Eveready1100]

Mark, can you measure the fork legs please. and any chance of a better photo of the steering head area. The welds look a bit weird. Hoping they haven't grafted on the complete Kaw front end. Do the engine and frame numbers match the police bike production records?

Try here - http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=396

or maybe here



That way, we will know roughly what version of electrical system we're dealing with

[myac455]

Hey there, Mark, welcome to the forum!

I just got back from a rally in Colorado and I'm still unpacking but can you give a hint about the electrical problem using small words and short sentences: charging, ignition, lighting, starting, all of it?

Thanks. I've identified most of it ,using the wiring diagram . A lot of it is going away anyway, seeing I'm building a chopper, and because I'm not a long distance man LOL.
Still curious about the reserve lighting box. Can't imagine I'll need it.

[myac455]

Nuts are sometimes used (JB welded) to the steering stops to prevent damage to the tank when Plexifaring hardware is installed.

Thanks. This is just a case of a Kawi steering stem being used on the Yami frame.
The bolt deal is already gone, and I will be welding two blocks onto the triple tree, leaving just enough room to clear the big tank , even though I'm not using it.

[myac455]

Mark, can you measure the fork legs please. and any chance of a better photo of the steering head area. The welds look a bit weird. Hoping they haven't grafted on the complete Kaw front end. Do the engine and frame numbers match the police bike production records?

Try here - http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=396

or maybe here



That way, we will know roughly what version of electrical system we're dealing with

Yes..It seems to be a legit early 79 2H7-028***

That wasn't a good picture. The neck was all original welds..until last Sunday anyway. You wouldn't want to see it at the moment after I added about 6 degrees rake to it. It is solid and stable again, and I will finish welding it when I get it stripped and turned upside down.
The frame has got many brackets and weldments that will be going away too, at that time.
What I need is the two rear frame ends and a 79 fender to work with.
Hoping someone has a damaged frame that they are willing to clip off the ends , from the shock mounts, back.
I suppose I should have just bought another frame, but at least I still have an all numbers matching deal here. I'll make it work.

You can see the cut lines in the one picture.

I spent two days on the carbs, getting the ten year old dead gas out of them. Everything was stuck, even including the float pivots!
They are back on now. Going to siphon down some gas to them and then use a jumper battery, and see if I can get this thing running a little later today.
Will report.

[3Phase]

Backup (Reserve) Lighting

Thanks. I've identified most of it ,using the wiring diagram . A lot of it is going away anyway, seeing I'm building a chopper, and because I'm not a long distance man LOL.
Still curious about the reserve lighting box. Can't imagine I'll need it.

Have fun rewiring, you get to decide what you want or need!

Edit: Your '79 may or may not have a Tail warning gadget wired to the Oil light. If it has a single tail lamp and it burns out or a wire comes loose, the magic box will light up the Oil warning light so you think your engine is about to seize.

The RLU is pretty handy if you ride at night. If the low beam burns out it switches to high beam through a resistor so it doesn't blind people; high beam burns out it switches to low. A fault on either element will light up the HEAD warning light on the console so you don't ride on all oblivious until the second element goes out and you're in the flippin' dark.

When my headlight failed on my Kawasaki I was having a blast riding around a lake on a moonless night under the pines. The light went out in a hard turn down by the dam and I would have ended up in the lake if the KZs RLU hadn't kicked on the other element.

[skids]

I think I could have changed beams with the switch on the bars. I bipassed my RLU's and never looked back.

[skids]

I think I could have changed beams with the switch on the bars. I bipassed my RLU's and never looked back. Of course I don't ride agressively at night (and some say ever).

[myac455]

Have fun rewiring, you get to decide what you want or need!

Edit: Your '79 may or may not have a Tail warning gadget wired to the Oil light. If it has a single tail lamp and it burns out or a wire comes loose, the magic box will light up the Oil warning light so you think your engine is about to seize.

The RLU is pretty handy if you ride at night. If the low beam burns out it switches to high beam through a resistor so it doesn't blind people; high beam burns out it switches to low. A fault on either element will light up the HEAD warning light on the console so you don't ride on all oblivious until the second element goes out and you're in the flippin' dark.

When my headlight failed on my Kawasaki I was having a blast riding around a lake on a moonless night under the pines. The light went out in a hard turn down by the dam and I would have ended up in the lake if the KZs RLU hadn't kicked on the other element.

Thanks for that info . Probably get rid of it too ,though. Looks like a good spot for my fuse box. Maybe not though. Harder to get at.
Anyway , I think I'm going to open up the middle of the bike, like they do on the cafe racers. Years ago, on the Honda SOHC 750's , I was stuck with the dry sump tank..Not now!