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  • 80 SG keeps blowing the turn signal (30amp) fuse....

    I have no idea why all of a sudden. One common denominator: It was wet out when it started happening. I have a blade type fuse holder!
    80' XS1100 SG "Dottie"

    79' SF carbs
    MAC 4-1
    K&N Pods
    Accel 3.0 coils
    Tarozzi fork brace
    TC fusebox

    Picture update soon

    http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...psej6wqu9l.jpg


    79' XS1100 SF (parts, will be reborn)

    http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...snfgpozqn.jpeg

  • #2
    Originally posted by ERM83 View Post
    I have no idea why all of a sudden. One common denominator: It was wet out when it started happening. I have a blade type fuse holder!
    30 amp is not your turn signal fuse, is it? The main fuse is 30 amp.
    Skids (Sid Hansen)

    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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    • #3
      yep...didn't mean to hit the "3" key. regardless, it's blowing them out...all my connections look fine....
      80' XS1100 SG "Dottie"

      79' SF carbs
      MAC 4-1
      K&N Pods
      Accel 3.0 coils
      Tarozzi fork brace
      TC fusebox

      Picture update soon

      http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...psej6wqu9l.jpg


      79' XS1100 SF (parts, will be reborn)

      http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...snfgpozqn.jpeg

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      • #4
        Bulbs are correct? I would check for a wire with worn insulation between the fuse and the bulbs. Check the feed-through at the stalks near the fender and at the front end.
        Skids (Sid Hansen)

        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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        • #5
          I'm gonna check that now. I'm on my 5th try figuring it out / fuse at the moment. Just got back from a ride, and blew two of them..despite my efforts. I cleaned the HELL out of EVERYTHING. i'm (ONCE AGAIN) IRATE with this thing. Expletives galore at my apartment.
          80' XS1100 SG "Dottie"

          79' SF carbs
          MAC 4-1
          K&N Pods
          Accel 3.0 coils
          Tarozzi fork brace
          TC fusebox

          Picture update soon

          http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...psej6wqu9l.jpg


          79' XS1100 SF (parts, will be reborn)

          http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...snfgpozqn.jpeg

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          • #6
            One thing I should mention: it will just blow out while riding. I'll use my signal, turn it off, then the next time i try to use it, NOTHING.

            WHY. I HATE ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS.
            80' XS1100 SG "Dottie"

            79' SF carbs
            MAC 4-1
            K&N Pods
            Accel 3.0 coils
            Tarozzi fork brace
            TC fusebox

            Picture update soon

            http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...psej6wqu9l.jpg


            79' XS1100 SF (parts, will be reborn)

            http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...snfgpozqn.jpeg

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            • #7
              Have you checked the switch itself for loose wires?

              The solder work sometimes wasn't the greatest and the switch is old. Be very careful when you open the switch or if there weren't any loose wires when you opened it there will be before you close it.
              -- Scott
              _____

              2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
              1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
              1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
              1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
              1979 XS1100F: parts
              2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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              • #8
                I also just put in a mike's xs signal assembly. wired it up correctly, and everything about a month ago. I THINK it may be the crimp in the right turn signal wire to the actual light...that makes the most sense. put a whole new assembly on, and it was FINE until the wet roads. will report back!
                80' XS1100 SG "Dottie"

                79' SF carbs
                MAC 4-1
                K&N Pods
                Accel 3.0 coils
                Tarozzi fork brace
                TC fusebox

                Picture update soon

                http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...psej6wqu9l.jpg


                79' XS1100 SF (parts, will be reborn)

                http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...snfgpozqn.jpeg

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                • #9
                  well, just cleaned up the rear turn signal wire...still blows out after...about a minute and a half of riding. By the way, it'll just blow when i'm riding...not even using the signal. I can feel it. the bike just slows down, and then it doesn't work. I cannot figure this out for the life of me.
                  80' XS1100 SG "Dottie"

                  79' SF carbs
                  MAC 4-1
                  K&N Pods
                  Accel 3.0 coils
                  Tarozzi fork brace
                  TC fusebox

                  Picture update soon

                  http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...psej6wqu9l.jpg


                  79' XS1100 SF (parts, will be reborn)

                  http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...snfgpozqn.jpeg

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                  • #10
                    You need to check the function of the voltage regulator at say 3500 rpms. It could be allowing overvoltage and over amping. ALTHOUGH I can't see it blowing the turn signal circuit without using the turn signals.
                    Skids (Sid Hansen)

                    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by skids View Post
                      You need to check the function of the voltage regulator at say 3500 rpms. It could be allowing overvoltage and over amping. ALTHOUGH I can't see it blowing the turn signal circuit without using the turn signals.
                      would the relay do this??? may be a stupid question...I just don't know my s*$% when it comes to the electrical aspects of these things...
                      80' XS1100 SG "Dottie"

                      79' SF carbs
                      MAC 4-1
                      K&N Pods
                      Accel 3.0 coils
                      Tarozzi fork brace
                      TC fusebox

                      Picture update soon

                      http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...psej6wqu9l.jpg


                      79' XS1100 SF (parts, will be reborn)

                      http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...snfgpozqn.jpeg

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by skids View Post
                        You need to check the function of the voltage regulator at say 3500 rpms. It could be allowing overvoltage and over amping. ALTHOUGH I can't see it blowing the turn signal circuit without using the turn signals.
                        It's probably not the relay. The SIG fuse is 20A because it's a catch-all circuit. If it's noticeable when it pops during a ride, that's a pretty decent short.

                        Let me find a schematic or several... alrighty then!

                        Flasher Relay
                        Flasher Self-Canceler
                        Self-Canceler reed switch in the Speedometer

                        Turn Signal Switch -- Brown/White wire from the Flasher
                        Turn Signal Lamps -- Dark Green or Chocolate wire from the signal switch
                        Turn Signal Indicator and the diodes for the Special -- Dark Green or Chocolate wire from the switch

                        Horn(s)

                        Fuel Light/Gauge
                        Neutral light and switch
                        Oil light and switch ('79 Special has the Brake Lamp Monitor circuit too)

                        2-pole Brown wire spade connector in the headlight shell:
                        Brake light switch (front and rear switches)
                        Switched and Fused Accessory Power -- normally not connected to anything
                        -- Scott
                        _____

                        2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                        1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                        1979 XS1100F: parts
                        2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                        • #13
                          And the Tachometer. Almost forgot.
                          -- Scott
                          _____

                          2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                          1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                          1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                          1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                          1979 XS1100F: parts
                          2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                          • #14
                            Automatic Breaker

                            A great way to remove frustration when hunting a short circuit is to use an automatic reset breaker in place of the fuse as a tool. Can be had in 10-30 amp ratings. When the short occurs, breaker trips. When it cools down, it resets. Hunt for the short while the tripping occurs. When found, reinstall the correct fuse.

                            Buy them in any parts store.
                            1981 XS1100H Venturer
                            K&N Air Filter
                            ACCT
                            Custom Paint by Deitz
                            Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
                            Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
                            Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
                            Stebel Nautilus Horn
                            EBC Front Rotors
                            Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

                            Mike

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                            • #15
                              here's the thing...

                              I had ZERO problems with any fuses blowing until recently. the fuse i'm posting about blew once in traffic...but that was it. nothing like that happened for MONTHS. then, once again, I ride home from work when it's wet out...a NEW problem. I'm going to look into the instrument cluster, because it DEFINITELY isn't the reg / rec...switched that out, and it STILL blew within 3 minutes of riding. SOOOOO PISSED RIGHT NOW....
                              80' XS1100 SG "Dottie"

                              79' SF carbs
                              MAC 4-1
                              K&N Pods
                              Accel 3.0 coils
                              Tarozzi fork brace
                              TC fusebox

                              Picture update soon

                              http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...psej6wqu9l.jpg


                              79' XS1100 SF (parts, will be reborn)

                              http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...snfgpozqn.jpeg

                              Comment

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