XJ1100 teardown: "We-e-e're off to see the welder, the wonderful welder of ours!"

[3Phase]

I had this nagging feeling this morning that I was forgetting something and I remembered what it was when I grabbed the bolts to put the case back together. I forgot to run a tap and die on all the bolts and holes and clean up the junk.

That's done now. :rooleyes:

The pistons are in the jugs and the jugs are set
Head's on
Crank and primary chain/shaft are set along with the cam chain
Starter clutch has new spring-grippy-thing-a-ma-bobs



It should be ready to go tomorrow or the day after.

It was getting exciting until I remembered the hundred-and-one things that have to be done after the engine's snuggled down all comfy in its cradle.

I have to change the tires, that'll probably be a lot easier to do before I put the engine back in.

[XJOK2PLAY]

Hey Scott!
Looks great! Like brand new...

Only thing I see that may be a problem-
You got it upside down. Don't forget to invert it before you install it back in the bike!

Might be a tough install that way...

[3Phase]

It's an old Indian trick, Bob.

[Radioguylogs]

More than you think

It's an old Indian trick, Bob.

Yep:

http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/cl...ur?slideshow=1

[3Phase]

Exactly! I wish I had one and the bux to keep it running.


Someone gleeped my valve core tool. I had to run to the store and buy another one and some new cores while I was there. The LAST time I had the Yamaha shop change a tire was the day before one of the Cali Rallies and the next morning the new tire was flat when I went to leave.

I aired it up, rode back to the shop and was told it was a bad valve core. They wanted extra for a new one so I got it, went to the rally and never went back to the shop.

I had fun breaking the bead on the rear tire just now. I usually use the side stand to break the bead but at this particular moment, none of my bikes have engines in them. It took some persistence and acrobatics to pop it loose without messing up the rim or dropping Columbo's rolling frame.

Back to the salt mine!

[3Phase]

Tire change was easy

The rear tire is done but the wheel bearings have to be changed.
I already have a left-hand bearing from James in the U.K. and a new right-hand bearing is on the way from Amazon, it'll be here by Friday.

Changing a tire using giant zip ties works great, the genius that thought this up originally deserves a medal or something.
It works by cinching both tire beads together so the tire sits in the center well of the rim, that makes it a lot easier get the old tire off and put the new one on.








There was a lot of old rubber stuck to the rim that needed to be removed with diesel and a scrubbing wheel.

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[Radioguylogs]

Tire lube?

What product do you use for tire lube?

Folk are saying dish soap has corrosive salts.

The Honda forum is trending toward Lemon Pledge.

BTW: I tried the zip tie method on my last rear tire and I cold not get the ties through the rim. I got past he first sidewall, and could not get back out the other side.

[skids]

Front tire mount

I have to mount a front of tire with an inner tube. Is there a special way to fish the stem through the rim if I use the zip tie method? Can its be done?

[3Phase]

What product do you use for tire lube?

Folk are saying dish soap has corrosive salts.

The Honda forum is trending toward Lemon Pledge.

BTW: I tried the zip tie method on my last rear tire and I cold not get the ties through the rim. I got past he first sidewall, and could not get back out the other side.

Work both beads all the way around the tire into the center of the rim.
There'll be plenty of space when both beads are in the well and you can thread the zip tie right through.

If the tire's really stubborn after you break the bead loose, use a c-clamp to force the beads together and run a zip tie under it, then keep working around the tire.
If the tire's really old or super heavy like a Metzeler Marathon, you'll have to make several passes after you get the ties in place.
I suppose it sounds/reads more complicated than it is to do it.

Clamp the tire and tighten the zip tie, then go to the next one and keep doing it until you can bring the beads together all the way around the tire.
It won't work if the beads aren't held together by the ties.

For lube I use ruGLYDE from NAPA, it's specifically made to mount tires.
In the picture, it's the yellow stuff in the container between the tire and the jug of ruGLYDE.

It's about $13 right now.




Lubricant - Rubber Based / RuGlyde

I have to mount a front of tire with an inner tube. Is there a special way to fish the stem through the rim if I use the zip tie method? Can its be done?

To be honest, skids, I have no idea if it would work with a tube but I used to use sew-up tires when I did long distance riding on my ten-speed bike back in the Cretaceous.
Sew-up rims are flatter and lighter. When you're using your own legs it makes a difference, especially after a few hundred miles.


Tubular Tire Installation
or
Spare the Glue and Spoil the Ride


I'd try putting the tube in the tire and inflating it just a hair so it won't wrinkle, then carefully cinch the beads together with the zip ties while you make sure you don't pinch the tube.
Start mounting the tire first at the valve stem and work the rest onto the rim.
There'll be room to adjust the tire and tube once it's in the center well of the rim.

[DiverRay]

With a tube there is NO NEED to worry about the bead until you have air in the tire! TUBELESS tires will NOT inflate if you have room between the bead and the rim. Tubes don't care! Tube type tires, just SLOOWWLY inflate, bounce the tire/rim with about 20PSI in it, and add more air.

[donebysunday]

Thanks

for the reminder guys !
I just found the bead on the front is leaking on DARKHORSE.
This was professionally mounted, YEAH RIGHT
I'm going to try cleaning and sealing it back up still on the bike.
Have yall tried the zip ties with the release, so you can use the ties over again ?
Or is that what those are and I missed seeing it ?

[3Phase]

The zip ties have a tab that you can release with a screwdriver.
Pulling the tie to tighten it unlocks and unloads the tab.
They're not only inexpensive, they're cheap too so sometimes the tab breaks.

I don't know what you'll be able to do for the rim with the tire on the rim but go for it if you can!
This is the mess that was the old front tire installed by professionals.
It looks like fetid cheese.



This is the rim after hitting it with the 3M wheel.
It's not just rubber buildup, the corrosion and pitting is too deep to remove without destroying the rim.
Oh, well.

[3Phase]

Oops! There Goes Another One!

The rear wheel bearing finally arrived today, it's a whole day late but the wheel's back together.


I hate gear oil.

I drained the '850 final drive and the oil was gray!
It was filled with fresh oil when I put it on the XJ so I spent this afternoon taking the drive apart, cleaning, flushing, measuring, then reassembling.

I have no idea.
The gears and bearings are good and the seals don't leak so it's going back on the bike with another fresh fill and I'll keep an eye on it.

I hate gear oil.

Have I ever mentioned that I hate gear oil? Okay, "I hate gear oil!"

[donebysunday]

Bout all that old gear lube is good for is to use as a deodorant

[3Phase]

It's the sulphur, it's only good for deoderant if you want to attract nymphs from the netherworld and keep anyone normal at bay.

I hate gear oil.